Which G5s are PCI Express?

The spec info page on the early 2005 G5s doesn't say if it is PCI-X or EXPRESS.
Can someone clarify which "exact" model numbers are PCI-EXPRESS" please
For example: M9590LL/A
Powermac G4 1.25ghz, OS9/OSX Mac OS X (10.3.8)

The "Late 2005" dual-cores are PCI-Express
http://support.apple.com/specs/powermac/PowerMac_G5_Late2005.html
The G5s prior to this were AGP graphics card slot and PCI(-X) expansion slots.
If you have a G5, it will state on the label here
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86418
the type of slots it has.

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The card I have says this under the Graphics/Displays section:
Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT
Type: Display
*Bus: PCIe*
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
But then under PCI Cards it says:
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT:
Name: NVDA,Display-B
Type: display
*Bus: PCI*
Slot: Slot-1
Vendor ID: 0x10de
So I am confused because I cannot tell if the NVIDIA card is PCI or PCIe. Do I have four regular PCI slots and one PCIe slot or four PCIe slots and one PCIe2 slot? What options do I have for video cards that are 512MB or larger? I have some games that I would love to turn on all of the effects to the highest quality, Quake 4 being one of them. Thanks in advance!!

Ooops, my bad, so there are only two different options? And they are both 512MB? I don't really see anything that says 512MB of VRAM or anything for the Radeon. ATI is now owned by AMD. It seems they may just discontinue Mac support. I don't want be stuck with another unsupported card. Last time was with the VooDoo 64MB card that came out for Mac when I had a G3. 3DFX went out of business shortly after.
Quadro 4500 FX and the ATI Radeon X1900 XT? Both are 512MB, is one brand better than the other? Is there anything bigger? I have recently read a lot of reviews of the Radeon cards over heating. I would like to get something better if possible and prepare to not have to upgrade again so soon. Also nVidia has these other Quadros on this page:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/qfx_uhe.html
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Full length pcie express 2 slot for fx soundblaster

Can I use pcie express 2 slot for fx soundblaster. There are no small pcie slots on my H87M Pro4 asrock motherboard. I have a GTX760 Nvidea video in the first slot which is a pcie express 3. Also have an empty pcie express 2 full size slot available.

Originally Posted by dinopkk
You can use the PCI-Ex 2 slot for your sound card according to jmacguire in this thread http://forums.creative.com/showthread.php?t=710433&page=2
Thank you for your reply. I will go ahead and install my sb card without worrying about wiping it out.

PCI express FireWire and USB suggestion

Hi there,
Got a G5 and need to add a fw 400 card as well as additional USB ports. Can anyone make a suggestion? I have a G5-quad core. I emailed Sonnet and they said they don't know of any manufacturer making PCI express Firewire. this doesnt' seem correct. I'd appreciate any replies as to what others have done to add FW slots since I want my external drives (lacie) on separate bus from my deck. Much thanks.

I added a SUNIX FW800 card to my system. Works fine. Tried a 3 port FW card from SIIG first, but that one wasn't compatible with the quad. So just be carefull as some cards are NOT compatible, even if they are PCI express. Make sure that you can return the card if it doesn't work.
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could anyone tell me which PCI express Fire Wire 400 card uses the Texas Instruments chip set? Have been looking all over but could not find one so far.
All help welcome on this one!

I use an Aaxeon, but there are many others, including SiiG, Nitro etc.
http://www.firewire-1394.com/ is a good place to search for firewire-related stuff.

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Ok, now Creative came out with X-Fi Titanium PCI-Express, which supposedly should fix the cracking and popping issues with Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 232 since Creative technical support said the probelm with X-Fi and Battlefield series lied in PCI bus. Now the new audio card is using PCI-E bus. So does anyone with X-Fi Titanium still hearing the cracking and popping sounds when artillery fires?

RB30, Do you also have the problem with your onboard audio?
I can only give you my experience and that is that the new titanium works in my set up and I do not have any popping issues in BF242. There are lots of hassles installing the drivers as detailed in other posts. Plus they treat the drivers like they are the crown jewels and do not have them for download on the web site.
The sound seems to be better than my onboard audio. Objects closer seem close and objects far away seem far away. I had an XtremeMusic card but I took it out since a problem always seemed to develop.
I did not see any noticable increase in performance but that may be due to the fact that the performance in my system seems to be video card limited and not cpu limited.
The EAX simulated 3D sound is excellent in BF242.
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How can I know which clients are connected to my network through express and which are connected through extreme?

I have an airport express extending, through wireless, a network provided by an airport extreme. How can I know which clients are connected to my network through express and which are connected through extreme?
Here you can see both routers:
I would expect to some clients connected to the express, other than the extreme. And that's all I see: only the airport extreme appears as client of the airport express.
Below, one can see the summary of the config for both routers.
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please disregard this answer.
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MSI P35 Neo2-FR which PCI Express white or the yellow

I am New here
Sorry about the stupid question. On the MSI P35 Neo2-FR, which PCI Express white or the yellow,do I have to put the 8800 GTS .
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White slot....... PCI-E x16
The yellow is PCI-E x 4

Now that Mac's are INTEL??? PCI-Express

Why do I still have to purchase a pci-express card for mac when they make the same one for PC. What's soo different?Won't the one one for the PC work in my mac? I want to take out my video card and use a better one that was given to me but I was told it will not work eventhough they make the same card for the mac. Is there anything special about the PCI-E that is made for a mac? I would like to purchase a HD tuner video card for the mac. Does anyone know what one I should buy?

Well, if you read the forums you will find the question has been answered several times. Basically, the problem is that PC video cards do not have the firmware to boot an EFI-based operating system because EFI is not used on PCs, rather they use BIOS. Also, the Mac cards require an Apple ROM. Hence, the PC cards will not work in the Mac Pro. Presently neither ATI nor NVidia are selling separate Mac Pro compatible video cards.
I believe your choices for TV tuners are EyeTV, El Gato, MyTV, and Formac. You can Google them for more information.

X58 pro i7 pci express 2.0 issue with sata controller

hello
i installed rosewill rc-225 (marvell controller) pci express 2.0 x1 card. my crucial m4 ssd maxes out at 271MB/s
it is installed in the x16 slot. i tried gen 1 x1 slot i was getting pathetic 130MB/s what is going... on new egg people with this drive and the controller are getting more than 400MB/s
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Quote from: brasstech on 12-September-11, 09:33:56
Running Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Video card is EVGA GTX295, Marvell 91xx Sata 6G Controller Driver is 1.0.0.1034.
Oh wow that is crazy.
So there are only 2 explanations left since I only have GTX260.
1. I have some fluke Rev 0 motherboard.
2. Marvell chip doesn't like Crucial SSDs. Which I did hear kind of on Crucial forum. (I am thinking this).
To finally conclude it is Crucial SSD, can you take me which revision/model of motherboard you have? I think i seen it on a corner of the motherboard printed. Or in the bios.
I'll get mine from the BIOS tonight.
Also I wonder if overclocking the CPU increase the speed.... I asked brasstech if he overclocked... I hope he did, that would explain things.

Will OSX support Adaptec PCI Express scsi cards in an early 2008 Mac Pro?

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Message was edited by: Jakob Richardt
Changed name of display adapter manufacturer.

Thanks for the response - I guess the question I should have asked is "Will OSX support scsi cards in an early 2008 Mac Pro and if so, which ones?" I didn't realize Apple and Adaptec weren't working together - my G4 tower arrived with an Adaptec card in it when I bought it in 2000 (from a third party vendor, not directly from Apple). It came with either OS 8.* or OS 9. When I updated to OSX, everything continued working, so I didn't think much about it until I pondered using the Mac Pro for the scanner - at some point the G4 is going to stop working - need to have a solution before that happens. The manuals I've been reading refer to the slots in the G4 machines as PCI. The manual for the Mac Pro refers to the slots as PCI e. These slots have fewer connectors, so I thought that the "Express" part of the name referred to this particular card configuration when compared to the longer card connectors in the G4 type of machines.
Can you tell me what scsi card brands will work in the Mac Pro? I'd still like to pursue this option. As I mentioned in my original post, buying a new scanner isn't in the cards right now - it costs more than the computer, so, although pricey, the card option is still less expensive.
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What is the BEST cable connection from Canopus ADVC 300 to Black Magic Intensity Pro HDMI PCI Express Capture Card?

I must connect an ADVC 300 to a Black Magic Intensity Pro HDMI PCI Express Capture Card. For best quality, which cable should I use?
On the ADVC 300 there are outputs of firewire, S-VHS and RCA.
On BMPro it's a little confusing. On the breakout cable there are connectors that say:
-5 B-Y OUT
-4 Y OUT
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-7-R-Y IN
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-9 B-Y IN
-15 AUDIO IN RIGHT
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-12 AUDIO LEFT OUT
-14 AUDIO LEFT OUT
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With the BMPro, there is also a separate, shorter cable. On one end it looks like S-VHS and on the other there are two connectors, one black and one blue.
On the actual BMPro Express card strip instead of using the breakout cable, there is HDMI IN (and HDMI OUT).
How should I connect this? Is there an adapter cable of FIREWIRE TO HDMI?
Any help is much appreciated.

Well, when I researched how best to digitize VHS (into Final Cut Pro 7), I learned two of the best devices to use are BMPro and Canopus ADVC 300. I’m using the ADVC 300 for the built-in time base corrector. I definitely want to use that to stabilize the video. I also read how well BMPro improves image quality. So, I thought to use the two together must produce outstanding quality (well, as good as VHS can be).
Perhaps I got confused into thinking I can use both. But the BMPro appears to have an S-VHS adapter.
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Run the firewire from the Canopus ADVC 300 converter directly into the firewire port on the Mac Pro
Or, run an S-VHS cable from the Canopus ADVC 300 into the BMPro Capture card
(I should mention that I have purchased all these items and already have the BMPro Card installed so at this point it’s not a cost issue, but rather an issue of simply which works best?)

K9NBPM2 not using PCI Express cards

I have a K9NBPM2-FID. Integrated graphics works fine, and the BIOS is set to auto for which graphics card to use. I have tried two different graphics cards in the slot, and it is not trying to use them. The cards are receiving power it seems (they are warm upon removal), but no display is there, and windows doesn't see the cards. I also tried setting the BIOS setting to both to use both adapters.. No matter what, it seems, it will not initialize the card, and will only use the integrated graphics unit. I also checked to ensure that primary display device is PCI Express --> PCI.
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Does the Digi@nywhere A/D Plus work with PCI Express ?

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I am planning to purchase a Digi@nywhere A/D Plus for my PC,
but all PCI slots on my K9N Diamond mainboard are already busy,
only the second PCI Express slot which can be used for a second
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X-Fi Fatal1ty PCI/-Express - All Hardware Acceleration Crashing, Significant R

Hello,
I've made a few posts on the forums recently about various topics to help me isolate the issue I am having. At this point, using the latest stable drivers for either a PCI or PCI-E X-Fi Fatalty, any hardware acceleration of sounds is causing my system to bluescreen, freeze or crash the application. Some games give me no option of not using hardware acceleration (ie. Rainbow6 Vegas 2), resorting in my having to change my Sound Acceleration down to Emulation Only. This setting greatly eases off on the sound latency buffers, resulting in sounds that are delayed an entire second. The good news is no crashes and sounds actually sound correct.
A few things to note about my setup,
) I am an extreme computer professional, programmer and developer. My Windows XP SP2 installation is incredibly streamlined; I only have 6 services running and all non-essential drivers removed, resulting in only 69MiB commit charge at startup across processes and ~950 threads. Suffice to say, my system is baby-cheek clean, and I aim to keep it that way.
2) I have been using this setup for many years now. I have been using NVIDIA video cards for the past 5+ years, currently I have a GTX280, and all of them have behaved perfectly with my streamlined setup. I even unregister every single one of NVIDIA's DLLs and stop all of their services, and the 3D Settings Per Application and Color Control Features still all work. Suffice to say, NVIDIA's drivers, although a trite on the large side, are written well enough to keep drivers away from OS services (as it should be).
3) My other hardware is not at fault. I have tested the X-Fis against multiple PSUs, different video cards, multiple fresh installations of Windows and more. I don't use utilities to clean my drivers; I do it by hand. I know exactly what's on my system and what I want removed. Though it may be egotistical to state, I'm pretty much knowledgable of every component my system has running.
4) As a result of this knowledge and my desire to keep my system clean, I ONLY HAVE INSTALLED the drivers necessary for my X-Fis to work. I DID install Creative Audio Console, but the application seems to have too many dependencies on OS Services, since it never runs, either reporting that my audio device cannot be found, or the application simply does nothing and a bogus error is written to the event log. I have enabled DCOM to make sure it wasn't dependent on that, and it still does not work. To summarize, yes, I have tried enabling every service I could find that it might depend on, and none worked. Creative Audio Console is, to me, a piece of ill-written software. In comparison to NVIDIA's excellent control panel which works no matter how much stuff I remove, Creative's Audio Console fails.
I do not have the Creative Audio Licensing Engine, I do not have the Creative Audio Control Panel, I do not have the Creative Labs Audio Engine Service, I do not have CMSS or any other OS-level services that normally get installed. Remember people, drivers are NOT TO BE DEPENDENT on OS services; they are protocols defining to the OS how to communicate with the hardware. Any necessity of additional "service" software is way past the acceptable standards of drivers.
5) That being said, I had no issues with stability using older drivers on my PCI X-Fi Fatalty cards. These drivers were dated early 2007, and did not install all of the X-Fi Effects, Utility Effects, 20x Effects, etc. drivers. Mind you I preferred these drivers since they were much simpler to track, as they only had a few .sys files.
As it stands, I want to use my PCI-Express X-Fi Fatalty, but I want to use it without all of Creative's bloat. I want streamlined, driver-only installation that does not NEED external applications to reinforce its stability. Creative, IS THAT POSSIBLE? Can someone, by definition of the Windows Driver Management signature system, just use your drivers alone for stable gaming? If not, you're violating standards and should never have received WDM cert. on any drivers. I highly recommend you do NOT spit back, saying that for proper functionality, performance, stability, etc. you must install all of Creative's supplemental software. These requires are in violation of the ethics behind software drivers and receiving Digital Signature Certification from Microsoft on your drivers.

Infinity7,
I do not want to sound arrogant, but the list of options you provided me with is the stereotypical laundry list of system configuration information for any piece of hardware. I'll address everything though.
) No, I'm not using an NVIDIA chipset. I'm using an ASuS Maximus Extreme, just like you said, which uses the X38 chipset.
2) I'm using Windows XP 32-bit, SP2. I have 2 GiB of memory and do NOT have PAE enabled.
2) I don't have onboard sound; our motherboard has a PCI-E sound card which I do not have installed.
3) I don't have any spyware. I don't browse the web on my system. I know every program running and have no rootkits. Nothing is hiding from me.
4) I don't use antivirus programs. I've been on the internet for 5+ years now and have never needed an antivirus program, since I know when I have a virus and I remove it manually.
5) I have the latest version of DirectX, June 2008 Redistritutable. Note that most of the post DX 9.0c revisions are meant for D3D, and have nothing to do with DSound.
6) I've tried every PCI-E slot I have, including both PCI-E x slots and both PCI-E x6 slots. The card is currently in one of my x6 slots.
7) Any 998+ system is going to have IRQ sharing. Between ACPI BIOSes (more IRQs), Windows XP and drivers, IRQs are rarely in conflict, aside from occasional USB device IRQ sharing. To answer your question, yes, currently both my video card and sound card are sharing IRQ 6. I have done enough work to isolate that IRQ sharing is NOT the issue, though, especially through my testing of the PCI card and the PCI-E card experiencing the same issue.
8) The output sampling rate of games is not always configurable, and never makes a difference. The X-Fi always upsamples everything it gets as it is, though I guess there is some validity to the sampling rates that are streamed into the buffers.
Now, to address the rest of your suggestions I say read my post. I specify that changing acceleration to emulation results in perfect stability and sounds that sound correct, however the relaxed latency results in sounds? that are easily delayed by second. This is unacceptable for gaming, obviously.
As for your ordering of driver installation, it really is through lack of knowledge that people state what order drivers must be installed in. Even NVIDIA's drivers probe for any change through the interfaces they use when the system starts, so any chipset drivers that drastically change the devices in Windows will be detected as changed by other drivers. Be that as it may, I didn't even have the X-Fi in my computer when I installed this latest version of Windows. Only after I had installed everything did I begin to install the Creative Drivers (whilst avoiding all bloatware).
Most importantly, note that I determined when the crashing started occuring with my original PCI version of the card. After I installed the drivers that started including the additional .sys files (X-Fi Effects, 20X effects, etc.) the crashing occured. As far as I know I cannot use older drivers with the PCI-E model, so rolling back to those previous drivers is out of the question.
Lastly, for my system specs,
Motherboard : ASuS Maximus Extreme X38 Chipset, BIOS 0907
CPU : Intel QX9650 (OCed from 3.0GHZ to 3.6GHZ, stable through Orthos testing)
Memory : (2) GiB Corsair Dominator Sticks, 4-4-4-2
Video : eVGA GeForce GTX280 FTW Edition (PCI-Express)
PSU : Thermaltake Toughpower 200W (backed by UPS)
Sound : Creative X-Fi Fatalty PCI / PCI-Express (tried both independently)

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