Which Grafikcard for CS5?

Hi,
at the moment I work on Production Premium CS4 and thinking about upgrading to CS5. At the moment my System is a Intel i7 920 CPU, 12GB Ram, 1GB Raid 1 and 2 GB Raid 0 HDD and a Nvidia GTX 250 Grafikcard/512MB.
To use the Merkury Playback engine I will need another GPU and according to the "hack" found several times on internet a GTX 560 should work very well!
The Question now is, do I need/should I buy a GTX 460 with 1GB or 2GB or RAM?
Or is the amount of GPU Ram not important (but I will need at least 768MB as I read in the tests)??

To use the Merkury Playback engine I will need another GPU and according
to the "hack" found several times on internet a GTX 560 should work
very well!
I doubt the validity of that information, because the GTX560 does not exist.
Entry level: 460
Economic: 470
High-end: 480
The more memory, the better.

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                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/IDFile.h:34,
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                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/InterfacePtr.h:76,
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                     from /idsdk7/source/public/interfaces/architecture/IDataBase.h:37,
                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/InterfacePtr.h:76,
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                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/InterfacePtr.h:76,
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                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/IDFile.h:36,
                     from /idsdk7/source/public/interfaces/architecture/IDataBase.h:37,
                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/InterfacePtr.h:76,
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                     from /idsdk7/source/public/interfaces/architecture/IDataBase.h:37,
                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/InterfacePtr.h:76,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/common/ShukHeaders.cp:48,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/gcc/PluginPrefix.pch:30,
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    /idsdk7/source/public/includes/PMString.h:1196: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before '(' token
    In file included from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/IDFile.h:37,
                     from /idsdk7/source/public/interfaces/architecture/IDataBase.h:37,
                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/InterfacePtr.h:76,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/common/ShukHeaders.cp:48,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/gcc/PluginPrefix.pch:30,
                     from <command-line>:0:
    /idsdk7/source/public/includes/WideString.h:322: error: expected `)' before '<' token
    /idsdk7/source/public/includes/WideString.h:751: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before '(' token
    In file included from /idsdk7/source/public/interfaces/architecture/IDataBase.h:37,
                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/InterfacePtr.h:76,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/common/ShukHeaders.cp:48,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/gcc/PluginPrefix.pch:30,
                     from <command-line>:0:
    /idsdk7/source/public/includes/IDFile.h:385: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before '(' token
    cc1plus: warnings being treated as errors
    In file included from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/InterfacePtr.h:76,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/common/ShukHeaders.cp:48,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/gcc/PluginPrefix.pch:30,
                     from <command-line>:0:
    /idsdk7/source/public/interfaces/architecture/IDataBase.h:488: warning: 'IDataBase::<anonymous struct>' declared with greater visibility than the type of its field 'IDataBase::<anonymous struct>::mainFile'
    /idsdk7/source/public/interfaces/architecture/IDataBase.h:488: warning: 'IDataBase::<anonymous struct>' declared with greater visibility than the type of its field 'IDataBase::<anonymous struct>::miniSaveFile'
    /idsdk7/source/public/interfaces/architecture/IDataBase.h:779: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before '(' token
    In file included from /idsdk7/source/precomp/common/ShukHeaders.cp:48,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/gcc/PluginPrefix.pch:30,
                     from <command-line>:0:
    /idsdk7/source/public/includes/InterfacePtr.h:506: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before '(' token
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                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/gcc/PluginPrefix.pch:30,
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    /idsdk7/source/public/includes/K2Vector.h:241: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before '(' token
    In file included from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/SystemUtils.h:33,
                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/PMPoint.h:29,
                     from /idsdk7/source/public/includes/PMMatrix.h:33,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/common/ShukHeaders.cp:53,
                     from /idsdk7/source/precomp/gcc/PluginPrefix.pch:30,
                     from <command-line>:0:
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    /idsdk7/source/public/includes/MSystemUtils.h:382: warning: 'InvertRgn' is deprecated (declared at /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/QD.framework/Headers/ QuickdrawAPI.h:1831)
    /idsdk7/source/public/includes/MSystemUtils.h:382: warning: 'InvertRgn' is deprecated (declared at /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/QD.framework/Headers/ QuickdrawAPI.h:1831)
    /idsdk7/source/public/includes/MSystemUtils.h: In function 'void SystemBeep()':
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