Which is better: Backup to agent/tape or disk?

We have the option to install an agent from our backup application
that would, I believe, perform RMAN backups direct to backup tape.
Alternatively we can make RMAN backups to disk, and run a cheap
file system agent and grab the disk based dumps. Is either method
known to be a better solution? Using an agent/tape seems riskier.
Thanks!

File system agents are much cheaper than Oracle agentsDepends, you can also use OSB which is free as long as you use locally attached single tape drive.
Having an extra LUN for disk backups is likely a cheaper solution than intricate processes for the direct to tape methodBut you can't compare extra LUN to tape because that extra LUN is also coming from the same SAN and all the backups are on the disks controlled by that SAN where as tapes are truly secondary backup place which can be managed totally differently and has no dependency on others means for some reason if you can't access disk backups tapes are always there.
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Restore backup pieces from tape to disk

Hello,
I want to restore the backup pieces from tape to disk. Is there any way of getting those bacup pieces to disk.
I have contacted storage team, that they can't copy the files, only through rman utility the files can be used.
I just need to restore the files from tape to disk. No, need to restore the database. I just need this for future purpose...
Thanks,
Ramesh G

You can try to use LIST BACKUP to get the backup piece name and then use Veritas tool to restore the backup piece from tape to disk.

Restore backup piece from tape to disk?

Hi,
Is it possible to restore rman backup piece from tape to disk? Please advice.
Thanks,

Is it possible to restore rman backup piece from tape to disk? Please advice.I dont think so it is related with ORACLE database to copy backup pieces from tape to disk.
You might have any other vendors like veritas, Symmetrix & all. We backup an Oracle database via the TDP application to tape

Which is better for User Managed Hot backup - running in cron or oracle scheduler

We are taking hot backup in our environment by using sql script of just begin backup, host copy and end backup
Can we use this script to be put in cron for weekly two times or to use oracle scheduler .
Which is better option and why?

The answer to your question depens on your condition. Do you have more experienced Unix admin or DBA?
From my point of view cron is better becuase all you need is SQL*Plus utility and shell script:
export ORACLE_SID=...
sqlplus <username>/<password> as sysdba <<EOF
ALTER TABLESPACE .. BEGIN BACKUP;
host copy ..
ALTER TABLESPACE .. END BACKUP;
EXIT
EOF

Which Is Better Time Machine or Backup

So I just got a new iMac plus a 1T external drive. I have been using backup on my old mini-mac with an external drive plus I used the drive for iTunes and iPhoto. So which is better TM or the old backup (which I had no problems with). I really do not do a lot on the iMac, no work just iLife stuff.
If I use TM can I partition the 1T to use one 500 GB for TM and another 500 GB for any odds and ends I simply want to store there (I plan to convert old videos to digital)?
Thanks

Hi! The drive for a bootable clone should be the same size as the internal main drive as should be the drive for TM. To create a bootable clone you can use the disk utility but I prefer SUPERDUPER and if you pay the 27.95 you get the ability to schedule auto backups! Tom
To use the disk utility: Kappy's method
How to Clone Using Restore Option of Disk Utility
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the backup or destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (journaled, if available) and click on the Erase button. This step can be skipped if the destination has already been freshly erased.
4. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
5. Select the backup or destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
6. Select the startup or source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
8. Select the destination drive on the Desktop and press COMMAND-I to open the Get Info window. At the bottom in the Ownership and Permissions section be sure the box labeled "Ignore Permissions on this Volume" is unchecked. Verify the settings for Ownership and Permissions as follows: Owner=system with read/write; Group=admin with read/write; Other with read-only. If they are not correct then reset them.
For added precaution you can boot into safe mode before doing the clone.
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Easy Server 2012 backup solutions with tape support?

We have several smaller to midsized customers that have invested money in tape drives and tapes. They are using Symantec BackupExec on Server 2003 / 2008 and 2008 R2. Unfortunately, Symantec postponed Server 2012 support in their products many times
already. This fact costs us many business opportunities to upgrade infrastructures to Server 2012.
DPM 2012 is good for larger customers, but less suited for smaller companies (and the DPM "philosophy change" of the backup procedures, compared to older tape based backup solutions is an obstacle as well.)
So we are looking for EASY backup solutions that support tape drives and server 2012. The "perfect" product for us would be just a tape driver and an extension to the integrated Windows Server Backup that would allow to store backups on tapes,
the same way that Windows Backup allows backups to network shared folders.
Does anyone knows EASY backup software that provides this functionality? I'm also very interested in feedback from peoples that have successfully used such products on Server 2012 and are satisfied with them.
Thank you all in advance for any help.
Franz

Looks like we are in the same boat here with 2012.
For all its trouble, BackupExec has been instrumental for us in providing our customers with a backup application that no other software vendor has been able to match. This includes:
1) Granular backup and restore of Exchange allowing the restore of individual mailboxes and single mail items
2) The same Granular backup and restore of Hyper-V's VMs
3) The ability to backup to Tape, Removable USB HDD and NAS and Network shares
Not even Shadow Protect cuts the mustard anymore – it’s become simply “stupid”.
Although we love the simplicity and robustness of Windows Backup, there are some very serious deficiencies including;
1) The extreme difficulty of adding additional USB HDD after the backup schedule has been created. I believe that this has partially been resolved in R2 but in 2012 it was a utter mess-up. We
resorted to hooking up two 5-port USB Powered Hubs so we could make sure that all USB HDDs could be included in the schedule - what a mission! One blown hub after the other - couldn't find one that could handle the electrical current load of 5x USB HDDs!
2) No Granular restore ability of nothing... had to resort back to the "old school" ESEUTIL "after" restoring the entire Exchange database to alternate location.
3) Backup to a Network Share is pathetic - can't store more than the current backup. What use is that? Had to resort to backing up to Network Share then including that backup in another Windows backup - go figure!
Like Franz, our customers have invested HEAVILY in Tape Drive hardware (some of which cost the customer in excess of $8000) and that excludes the cost of Symantec BackupExec.
Although BackupExec 2012 now supports Server 2012, the re-purchase of the software is not a consideration to most of our customers.
Sorry Franz, I don’t have a solution for Tape Drives yet. This is one reason why we have stayed away from deploying 2012 that already have a recent investment in Tape Drive technology.
However, because there is NO other backup solution that compares to Symantec BackupExec (version <2010), we have been successfully implementing a hybrid solution (which, unfortunately, still does not include Tape Drives) including our own business.
As BackupExec 2010 does not support Windows 2012 as a “Media Server” there IS a workaround in a “virtual environment”.
We have successfully installed BackupExec 2010 on a Hyper-V Virtual Server as the “media server” and targeted the backups to shared folders on both NAS and removable USB HDD shares (off the Host Server).
Although it works GREAT, there is still the serious deficiency of not been able to use Tape Drives (unless some really bright spark out there has an idea on how to make a Tape Drive accessible to a VM).
Another REALLY good solution in which we deployed just last week was to supply the customer with a dirt-cheap PC, install it with Windows 2008 and the Tape Drive and schedule all the normal (and yummy) BackupExec 2010 granular backups to. Remember, the BackupExec
agent WILL install and run just fine on Server 2012 - no problems there.
This has become an INSTANT hit and this is OUR solution – a very small price to pay for “real granular” backups to Tape Drive.
I hope that you find that the mentioned "good solution" a viable and cost-effective workaround.
Backup Exec DOES NOT support Windows 2012. I just got of the phone with them today April 24, 2014. I have been using BE since Seagate made version 7. Every product Symantec buys eventually turns to crap! I just left Symantec Endpoint
Protection after 13 years because it is unreliable and has very poor detection compared to other products. In fact, it is so bad, that Symantec won't participate in any third-party evaluations that they don't pay for such as AV-Comparatives.org.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Symantec!

Help! I need a better backup rouine.

I am looking for suggestions on how to create a better backup routine. I'm on DVD number 140 in my Retrospect Backup set. I need a better solution.
*Our current set-up:*
We currently use a *Dual 2Ghz G5* with an external *LaCie Biggest F800* Raid drive attached to host our graphics files. This gives us the raid security for day to day use. It's pretty fast too as we have it attached via Firewire 800 and Gigabit Ethernet. We have 3 other Macs that log into this G5 under the host's user name in order to see the external drive and access it. (We found this to be the only way we could see the external drive without having to run something like sharepoints.) I know this isn't the most secure way of doing things but security isn't an issue here among the 3 users that log onto the host G5.
*Our current Back-Up Routine:*
Using Retrospect I run an automated backup script every other night to DVD-R media. This is handy because there are times when we need to restore a version of a file that is several generations old. Obviously this becomes a problem as we are now on DVD number 140 and counting. My main purpose for this is to have an off-location backup set.
*What I'm looking for:*
Unless someone has a better solution, I'm looking for a better form of removable storage. I know firewire drives are inexpensive these days however I believe they would fill up very quickly using this type of back-up routine. (Since we don't want to simply overwrite old files.) I don't know if DAT tapes are a thing of the past or if there is something else out there.
Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

An intermediate step is instead of getting an enclosure for each drive, just get one enclosure and a bunch of bare drives. Alternatively, you can buy a connector (I don't know what they are called technically) which has a plug for IDE (and sometimes SATA) on a small box with the controller card on one end and a USB and/or Firewire and/or eSATA connector at the other. They are intended for people who want to store data on hard drives but not have a bunch of enclosures. You plug in the bare drive at one end and the other into your computer port -- kind of like an enclosure without the box. I wouldn't want to have this setup on my desk all day but I do have some archival hard disks I connect maybe once every two months where I do this.

Which is Better? Mac or PC?

Which is Better?
Intel iMac Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Hello,
I'm not going to argue that a Mac is better, but I do have a response to:
looking computers and the software is great however
they have major compatibility issues. for example
many websites do not support mac's Ex.
www.aircanada.com
I have never had any problem exchanging documents or viewing web pages with the Mac.
All my document exchanges have worked flawlessly, and work going both to and from Windows PC's.
But, you need to make sure you are using the right program on the Mac if you want to share files with PC users.
As for the website compatibility, the site you provided as an example will work just fine. They just don't want you to know it.
What that website is doing, is running a check to see what web-browser you are using. Beyond that, they are also running a check to see which computer you are using.
So, what you need to do is make sure that your browser tells their website what it wants to hear.
So, in Safari, you can use the "Debug" menu to have Safari report itself as the Windows version of Internet Explorer.
Go to the Debug menu, then pick "User Agent", then choose: "Windows MSIE 6.0".
If the site still won't load, then go to the site first, and perform the selection again from the Debug menu.
Basically, what you are doing is changing what Safari identifies itself as.
Additionally, the website that you listed does list that it is compatible with Mac OS 9.0 or later. So, it should work provided you pass it's checks.
If for some reason it still won't work, contact them since they say that it is compatible with the Mac.
The only sites that absolutely will not work with a Mac are sites that use "Active X" to take over control of your computer or communicate directly with the operating system. Fortunately, those sites are getting rarer and rarer.
The only site I've run across in recent times that uses Active X is Microsoft's Windows Update site (which you wouldn't need with a Mac anyway).
As for enabling the "Debug" menu in Safari, if it is not already there, you can do that by:
Closing Safari
Open "Terminal" which is located at:
Hard Drive --> Applications --> Utilities --> Terminal
Then type the following at the command line:
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
If you would prefer an automated method of enabling the Debug menu, you can always download the free Safari Enhancer program which includes a setting for this feature:
http://www.lordofthecows.com/softwarelist.php

Which is better to use in a corprate enviornment for back up Windows 2008 Vs. Mozy

Which is better to use in a corprate enviornment for back up Windows 2008 Vs. Mozy

Hi,
Microsoft provide the built-in backup utility Windows Server Backup to backup Windows server 2008. For more detailed information, please refer to the articles below:
Windows Server Backup Step-by-Step Guide for Windows Server 2008
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc770266(v=ws.10).aspx
Save big bucks without risk: Get the most from Windows Server 2008 Backup Utility
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/data-center/save-big-bucks-without-risk-get-the-most-from-windows-server-2008-backup-utility/
Please Note: Since the website is not hosted by Microsoft, the link may change without notice. Microsoft does not guarantee the accuracy of this information.
For Microsoft does not provide any third party software, you need to check with the third party software yourself.
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Which is better to sync, wifi or iCloud?

I heard that you shouldn't sync with itunes and icloud. Which is better, and how do you set that up?

Where did you hear you shouldn't use these?
You're comparing apples and oranges. Wifi sync is a way to wirelessly sync with iTunes on your Mac or PC. This includes content that you've purchased, content that you've ripped from your own CD collection, as well as things like playlists, song ratings, etc. This is just to replace plugging in your USB cable as you've always had to do in the past.
iCloud is a way to store some of your content on Apple's servers and retrieve it on any iCloud enabled device. Note this includes only content you've purchased (music, movies, tv shows) or content you've created using iCloud-enabled apps like Pages, Numbers, or Keynote. iCloud doesn't let you sync "metadata" such as playlists, song ratings, etc. if you add a song to a playlist on your iPhone, it won't show up on that same playlist on your iPad, Mac, or PC because you use iCloud. It only gets moved on those other devices after you sync. iCloud also provides a means to keep calendars, contacts, notes, and reminders the same across multiple devices. Finally, iCloud let's you backup your device to the cloud instead of to your Mac or PC, which is handy feature as you don't have to worry about losing your backup should your Mac or PC fail.
You can choose to use iCloud and not wifi sync, or use wifi sync and not iCloud, or use both or use neither. They are independent of one another and provide different functions.
Personally, I use both. I wirelessly sync so my iDevices are up to date, and I take advantage of iCloud for my backups, calendar, contacts, etc.

Which is better,the Apple TimeCapsule or the WD MyCloud for backing up pixs and datas?

I am not too sure which is better for backing up my pixs that i have saved and dont want to lose them,am thinking which would be best for me to purchase?the apple timecapsule or the wd mycloud,i heard great things about both but not sure from someone who got experience,so could u help me out and tell me which is better and why?
thanks in advance...

Backup is backup. Doesn't matter how you do it, but that you do it.
Given the choice you posited I would choose the Time Capsule if you want to use Time Machine. If you wish to use third-party backup software then you can only use the WD. It comes with its own proprietary backup software. Or you can go another direction and avoid cloud/network backup which is very slow.
Basic Backup
For some people Time Machine will be more than adequate. Time Machine is part of OS X. There are two components:
1. A Time Machine preferences panel as part of System Preferences;
2. A Time Machine application located in the Applications folder. It is
     used to manage backups and to restore backups. Time Machine
     requires a backup drive that is at least twice the capacity of the
     drive being backed up.
3. Time Machine requires a backup drive that is at least double the
     capacity of the drive(s) it backs up.
Alternatively, get an external drive at least equal in size to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone using the Restore option of Disk Utility. You can also make and maintain clones with good backup software. My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):
1. Carbon Copy Cloner
2. Get Backup
3. Deja Vu
4. SuperDuper!
5. Synk Pro
6. Tri-Backup
Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on backup and restore. Also read How to Back Up and Restore Your Files. For help with using Time Machine visit Pondini's Time Machine FAQ for help with all things Time Machine.
Although you can buy a complete external drive system, you can also put one together if you are so inclined. It's relatively easy and only requires a Phillips head screwdriver (typically.) You can purchase hard drives separately. This gives you an opportunity to shop for the best prices on a hard drive of your choice. Reliable brands include Seagate, Hitachi, Western Digital, Toshiba, and Fujitsu. You can find reviews and benchmarks on many drives at Storage Review.
Enclosures for FireWire and USB are readily available. You can find only FireWire enclosures, only USB enclosures, and enclosures that feature multiple ports. I would stress getting enclosures that use the Oxford chipsets especially for Firewire drives (911, 921, 922, for example.) You can find enclosures at places such as;
1. Cool Drives
2. OWC
3. WiebeTech
4. Firewire Direct
5. California Drives
6. NewEgg
All you need do is remove a case cover, mount the hard drive in the enclosure and connect the cables, then re-attach the case cover. Usually the only tool required is a small or medium Phillips screwdriver.

I wonder which is better

I wonder which is better - Airport Extreme or Time Capsule for use at home. I have a year old Macbook Pro (10.8 OS), am getting a new Macbook Air for use at work, and will be adding a second ipad. Originally iI was researching to find an exgternal backup, but the Extreme sounds interesting.

Install under BootCamp and you need to alter the boot sector of the drive. Also you cannot create any more partitions.
But Parallels can use the BootCamp Windows as is "image", giving you the choice of "how to use it when".

Refurb 13inch 2012 OR Refurb 15inch 2011 which is better?Is refurb really worth it?THOUGHTS ON REFURBISHED MBP

hey folks i am planing to buy a macbook pro after saving cash since the past 6years i want you all to help me with which product i should go for
i am 17 and need a good laptop which will last me another 5years..... i have been thinking about a refurb macbook pro 2012 13inch 2.9 i7dual core which is for about 1260 and another one refurb macbook pro 2011 15inch 2.2 i7 quad core which is again for 1350.....i would want to know which is a better option as price wise both are very close and if is the 15inch worth it and better as the 2011 does not have the usb3.0 and bluetooth 4.0 and its sandy bridge but again its quad core where as the 13inch 2012 has all the stuff but its dual core.... what is the difference between quad and dual core?....and i would want to know your thoughts on the refurb models as i said its importamt for me to spend my money wisely since i have been saving for the past 6years....does the refurb mbp as good as new?can they have cosmetic damages?is the outter shell and body replaced?and do they come with new parts and accesories? and is it like a second hand laptop which is used for a year or few months and then returnded and sold again as refurb? please let me know which is better and long lasting or else shall i go for a new one...cause if i buy a refurb mbp and the apple protection care plan the total cost is as much as a new mbp so is it better to buy a new mbp and not buy the apple protection plan? PLEASE HELP ME OUT
Thanks for your time
Toodles
Links of the models:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD318LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-22ghz-quad-c ore-intel-i7#overview
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD102LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-29ghz-dual-c ore-intel-i7
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USB 3 vs USB 2 -> the importance of USB 3 depends on how much you use an external drive to read/write large files or large numbers of files. I once did extensive testing with USB 2 vs FireWire 400 & 800 with TimeMachine. It was no surprise that performing a complete backup with FireWire was significantly faster than with USB (or even a large backup such as after installing an OS update). But for those hourly (or even daily) backups the difference wasn't all that significant. Exporting a large number of photos or an iMovie to FireWire was significantly faster. Copying a copy word processor files it was almost impossible to accurate time the difference. For some the USB3 ports are a big deal. For me, not at all because I'm heavily invested in FireWire drives.
BlueTooth 4? Frankly, I can't say because the only thing I use BT for is my keyboard and mouse which the older standard is fine for. There are potential advantages - just as with USB3 - the question is whether your current/future needs align to the new standards. Again for me they don't.
As for the CPU difference - I've already indicated that unless you are doing high processor intensive work (such as 3D modelling or big statistical modeling) either processor has plenty of power. According to the benchmarks my new work iMac runs rings around my work 2009 Core 2 Duo 13" MBP. In my real world use of those two computers I never notice the difference. If I played 3D games on them I would.
I've already said that all but one of my refurbs looked new and from what I've seen of relatives and friends buying refurbs that runs pretty true. You aren't buying a new computer but on the other hand I've never seen a refurb that looked beat up. Most refurbs are computers that buyers returned within Apple's 14 day buyer's remorse period or were dead on arrival, a new one given to the buyer, and repaired.
I can't tell you how long a refurb MBP will last - no more than I can tell you how long a new MBP will last. But Apple warrants them for a year and lets you buy an extended warranty just as if they were new. That indicates the confidence Apple has in its refurbs.
Where do you get the idea that you can only put a 128GB SSD in a 13"? It can handle any standard 2.5" drive and there are plenty of SSDs in that form factor at 256GB and above. Yes an SSD is expensive compared to a standard drive but the speed increase is amazing and not just in booting up the computer. Installing an SSD on my 4.5 year old iMac gave it another year of live. Installing one in my work MBP was like getting a new computer. I wouldn't consider buying a new computer without one.

N73, N76 or N95 - Which is better suggestion

My usage will be mainly Music and Messaging and few calls.
So i will be looking on for better battery performance. Currently having 6300 which drains in 3/4th of the day.
How can i check which battery will have better backup on wat basis can we decide.
thanks in advance.

These three devices share little in common. Depends on what you want to use it for.
The N73 has better battery life.
The N95 has a lot of features no other model has.
The N76 is slim and pretty, but otherwise a very basic smartphone.
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Which is better for solving Mac issues

I have been experiencing Kernel Panics and program crashes. I want something that is good for testing hardware and OS issues. Can either of these find corrupted data files? I am looking at two utilities for purchase. Which is better for solving Mac Issues?
TechTool Pro
or
Disk Warrior?

When you say "complete bootable backup" do you mean that it contains the OS + all my applications? Basically a clone of the start-up?
Yes, you have that very clear. I use Tri-backup or CCC for this normally, but there are other options.
If I have this clone, and I start getting issues on my Mac, I can Zero the HD and reinstall the OS via the clone (including all the applications)?
Yes, and if pressed for time you can just keep working off the Clone.
I can Zero the HD and reinstall the OS via the clone (including all the applications)?
Yep, right back to 100%, excluding HW issues.
With all my software... it takes a day to reinstall all of it to a complete image.
Yes, the only sensible thing is a Clone... or two. Most problems can be overcome by simply Verifying/Repairing the HD once in awhile, Repairing Permissions before and after every update/upgrade, and turning off Auto Updates in SW Update CP... wait a couple of weeks and check these forums for the number of problems with any update.
PS. DiskWarrior has saved me hundreds of times from having to do complete new Installs or cloning back of Installs, I figure that's saved me 10's of thousands of hours & grief... I appreciate Alsoft so much that I don't even go for the generous upgrade offers on new versions... I just buy the new version completely at Retail.
PPS. Funny thing, you'll read something like DiskWarrior is a one Pony Dog Show or something... just does one thing... I just have to laugh outloud... Yeah, the one thing is... cure my incurable Mac Problems 99.9% of the time!

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