Which is better MSI GE70 Apache or MSI GT70 Dominator?

Looking to maybe buy an MSI laptop, want to know which one is better. Thank you!

I will pick GT70 since GT70 is equipped with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M / GDDR5 8GB.

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MSI GE70 Apache Pro unboxing

Here we have the awesome MSI GE70 Apache Pro (GE70 2PE-051UK) for our unboxing! As you can see it has all the trademark MSI logo, slogan and some of the other world class brands which feature on this notebook such as the Killer network who provide the fastest possible network speeds for lightening quick connection when gaming! The sound is by Danish specialists Dynaudio for unbeatable clarity. Dynaudio is only used on the best quality products, they also provide there sound systems to top cars such as Bugatti; showing they provide only top quality sound. The keyboard is by Steelseries; pioneers in the gaming peripheral department. They provide the top quality keyboard produced for the ease of use for gamers therefore improving you’re gaming skills! On the side of the box is the model and spec of the notebook inside.
First thing you see when the box is open is the power lead and unit, as shown the power unit is very thin and light; like the notebook itself so therefore great for portability!
Also we have the sleeve with a driver CD, warranty booklet/form, quick start guide, hot key F3 recovery function booklet, CE Compliance booklet and finally a competition entry to win a free notebook!
Now for the main event; the notebook itself! Inside the box we have supports to hold the notebook to make sure it’s safe when being delivered. Once it’s out of the box we have the notebook in a protective sleeve and under this is the screen sleeve to protect further! Here is the GE70 out of the protective sleeves, the lid of the notebook is brushed aluminium and has simple and effective MSI branding; the dragon in Asian legends means the king of the world, this represents MSI commitment to provide only the highest standard of gaming notebooks to gamers worldwide. As well as this, the dragon on the logo is backlit and adds to the already awesome look of the notebook.
On the front of the notebook there are the LED indicator’s, we have the disc indicator, Bluetooth, WLAN, battery, caps lock, num lock and finally the sleep.
On the left side of the notebook we have an SD card slot, gold flash headphone jacks with MSI audio boost which enhances sound clarity and fidelity by 30%; just another feature which can make your gaming and multimedia experience much better! There are 2 USB 3.0 slots, HDMI port, ventilation, power plug and the security lock.
On the right side of the notebook we have the gigabyte Ethernet port, VGA port, high power USB 2.0 for when you need to charge your mobile fast (or any other device), BD Combo / DVD Super multi and another USB 2.0!
Here’s the back of the laptop, as you can see it has a sleek design like the rest of the notebook.
The screen itself is a 17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) anti-glare LCD panel in LED backlight, the anti-glare itself is very use full for gaming and other tasks as you can use the notebook in any conditions and still have maximum use at all time!
Here we have the full keyboard layout by Steelseries, it features a fully backlit keyboard with over 1000 different colour combinations and five different scenario modes for the keyboard! So weather you’re at home gaming in the dark or at a LAN party, you can have the coolest looking keyboard with high visibility for every key; enabling you to maximize your gaming skills in every situation. This keyboard also supports multi keys; therefore allowing users to rapidly respond to games with precision and issue commands rapidly. You can learn more about the Steelseries keyboard and engine here:
Featured on the steel series keyboard is a change to the usual keyboard layout, the left Ctrl button has been made larger than usual as it is an important key for gamers and is now more accessible when gaming.
The windows button on this keyboard has also moved from the left of the keyboard to the right side, this has been done in favour of gamers so the button doesn’t get in the way when you are gaming. All these little details maximize your gaming experience way more than your normal keyboard!
On the GE70 we have world class sound provided by Danish sound specialists Dynaudio! The notebook has speakers located above the keyboard and also has 2 other speakers on the underside of the notebook closest to the front. The speakers support 7.1 channel SPDIF output, features exclusive audio boost technology which enhances sound clarity and fidelity by 30%! All together increasing the gaming and multimedia experience with the great sound provided. You can learn more about the Dynaudio sound here:
[video=youtube;tE8FBiuGsBo]
The back of the notebook has 5 rubber studs to keep the notebook secure when stationary; therefore no movement when using the notebook. The battery is a 6-Cell Li-Ion, there are several ventilation spots to keep the notebook running cool at all time.
Here is the spec of the notebook
Operating System   Windows 8.1
Processor / chipset
CPU   Intel Core i7 (4th Gen) 4700HQ / 2.4 GHz
Max Turbo Speed   3.4 GHz
Number of Cores   Quad-Core
64-bit Computing   Yes
Chipset   Mobile Intel HM87 Express
Features   Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0
Memory
RAM   16 GB ( 2 x 8 GB )
Technology   DDR3L SDRAM
Storage
Hard Drive   256 GB SSD - MSI Super RAID
SSD Form Factor   mSATA
Hard Drive (2nd)   1 TB HDD / 7200 rpm - Serial ATA-600
Optical Drive   DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM
Display
Type   17.3"
LCD Backlight Technology   LED backlight
Resolution   1920 x 1080 ( Full HD )
Widescreen   Yes
Image Aspect Ratio   16:9
Features   Anti-glare, MSI Matrix Display
Audio & video
Graphics Processor   NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M - 2 GB GDDR5 SDRAM
Camera   Integrated webcam
Capture Resolutions   1280 x 720
Sound   Speakers, subwoofer , microphone
Audio Features   Dynaudio Premium Sound Technology, MSI Audio Boost
Input
Type   Touchpad, backlit keyboard
Communications
Wireless   802.11n, Bluetooth 4.0
Network Interface   Gigabit Ethernet
Ethernet Controller   Killer E2200 Intelligent Networking
Battery
Technology   6-cell Lithium Ion
Capacity   49 Wh
Run Time   Up to 4 hours
Ac adapter
Output   120 Watt
Connections & expansion
Interfaces   2 x USB 2.0 ¦ 2 x USB 3.0 ¦ LAN ¦ VGA ¦ HDMI ¦ Headphone output ¦ Microphone input
Memory Card Reader   Yes ( SD Card, SDHC Card, SDXC Card )
Miscellaneous
Features   Cooler Boost technology, SteelSeries gaming keyboard
Dimensions & weight
Width   41.8 cm
Depth   26.9 cm
Height   3.9 cm
Weight   3 kg
This is the MSI boot configure, it’s the first software that opens on start of your MSI notebook. It’s a thoughtful program which is designed to let you choose how you want your notebook to boot up, the 2 screenshots show the options available; you can choose between the windows 8.1 metro or the normal desktop screen on log in. As well you have the option to choose whether the start button goes to the start screen or the app screen. This simple program allows you to customize your notebook to your needs!
The GE70 has a Killer E2200 Intelligent networking LAN chip. It automatically detects and accelerates game traffic for smoother, faster gameplay by recognizing and prioritising online game data packs. Therefore in any game you’re playing weather a FPS or MMO you will always have the fastest response time possible in every situation! You can also manually decide the priority of each application to maximize network performance on the programs you need the most! You can see more on the killer network on our youtube -
[video=youtube;bc4Y4VxOA-g]
Now to test the system with the latest high demand games! We tested the system with crysis 3, metro last light, assassin's creed IV and battlefield 4. All these games require very high spec systems and are great for testing; we tested them on max settings and also on Nvidia’s optimized settings for each game. Nvidia has made it easy to optimize the settings to get the best performance possible out of the notebook with the GeForce experience! You can auto-optimize game settings for best performance and tweak them if you want better graphics or better frame rate.
The result are as follows:
Crysis 3 maxed out ran at an average of 20-30 FPS and with Nvidia’s optimized settings it ran at an average of 55-65 FPS.
Metro last light maxed out ran at an average of 30-40 FPS and with Nvidia’s optimized settings it ran at an average of 50-60 FPS.
Assassin’s creed IV maxed out ran at an average of 30-40 FPS and with Nvidias optimized settings it ran at an average of 35-45 FPS.
Battlefield 4 maxed out ran at an average of 35-45 FPS and with Nvidia’s optimized settings it ran at an average of 50-60 FPS.
All round great results from some of the highest demanding games on the market, it shows that the GE70 is capable of keeping up with your gaming needs while still being a portable, slim and light notebook.

It is extra ventilation for cooling! Quote from: RepoSnow;104046
I actually just bought one of these- 012 US model and it hasnt got here yet but do you know what these two rows of dots are on the back? (Picture #15) http://i60.tinypic.com/34h9xfb.jpg

Which is better for servers, Apache or Tomcat?

Which is better for servers, Apache or Tomcat?

For some reason that link I gave you isn't working right now, but it was today, weird. I would get Tomcat simple because sun uses it in its examples and recommends it. Here's sun's link then, it's probably more useful anyway. http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/

MSi GE70 Apache Pro w/ nVidia GeForce GTX 860M Graphics Issues

Hi there,
I recently purchased an MSi gaming notebook with nVidia GTX 860M graphics. However, just recently I've been having game-breaking issues with textures rendering, artifacts and particles as well as the drivers crashing now and again(desktop flashing and flickering).
I've only had this laptop for just over two months and am quite disappointed with issues coming up already.
To get to the specifics; I have recently been playing through the Mass Effect trilogy and, just the other day, started up a file in Skyrim. The following screenshots show my biggest issues aside from the obviously serious driver crashing issues. I believe the issues started maybe a month into owning this laptop and since it has been getting progressively worse. I feel as though I have been all over the internet trying to find a fix to this, I've tried everything suggested, everything that I could think of, and I am just about ready to have it sent back. I was hoping someone may have some other options before I do send it in.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d8koa8f8i1z9j3d/Photo%202014-09-30%2C%201%2040%2044%20AM.jpg?dl=0
On the title screen for Mass Effect 3 I get these consistent blue and red glowing orbs, they also occur on several other maps within gameplay.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a9c47w320u5xylb/Photo%202014-09-30%2C%201%2043%2016%20AM.jpg?dl=0
Once I get in-game, this occurs everywhere. Textures "expanding" off of characters into random points.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v37un4vespalosx/Photo%202014-09-30%2C%201%2045%2036%20AM.jpg?dl=0
This happens occassionally on characters; ridiculously shadowed faces to the point where they are barely recognisable.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8cebgs4t10ghnh0/Photo%202014-09-30%2C%201%2046%2020%20AM.jpg?dl=0
On almost all wall textures there are white glowing particles like the ones behind the character here. In extreme cases, the wall becomes a texture of textures. All of the textures in the game are miniaturized into a wall of textures on certain objects.
I've also had signs and the game's menus and interface stretched and skewed all over the place. If I continue to play it with the above issues, the game eventually hangs and I have to alt+tab out and back in, or close it using the task manager. All of these issues also occur in Skyrim and any game using the same, or similar, engines. The only game I have been able to play almost seamlessly without any issues is Ragnarok Online 2, an online MMORPG.
I have tried the following:
nVidia's GeForce Control Panel: any and all combination of options.
Re-installing video drivers.
Re-installing DirectX and PhysX.
Formatting and a fresh install of Windows and all games and drivers.
Any other troubleshooting other forums have provided.
Removing the pagefile for virtual memory limits.
Using Intel HD graphics to test for other issues.
PC/nVidia power settings.
The one time I thought it may be fixed, all it took was me plugging in my laptop to cause the issues all over again. I've tried downloading MSi Afterburner to check GPU temperatures and I rarely even go over 65~70. I'm absolutely out of ideas. It was suggested to me by a family member that it may be a hardware issue, hence the consideration for sending it in.
I'm running Windows 7 64-bit
nVidia GeForce GTX 860M
Intel Core i7-4710HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz
12GB of RAM
Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated. I would really rather not have to send it back. I've also posted this over at the nVidia forums because I'm -hoping- it's a software issue.
Thanks in advance!

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It was suggested to me by a family member that it may be a hardware issue, hence the consideration for sending it in.
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To me it sounds like a hardware issue (especially if you have rolled back to factory default and reinstalled from scratch)
It wouldn't be a hardware issue since you can play other games without problem.
Easiest way to tell if it's a hardware issue or not is to run the benchmark tool for example 3DMark 11 and see if the problem also happens during the benchmark.
For the rendering problem you were talking, please provide not only the problem picture but also the picture without problem to let us make the comparison.
I'm sorry to say, but some of the picture I'm not really getting what the problem you're talking about.
For the shadow face, here are few user provided fix which might be helpful.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2282965
http://forum.bioware.com/topic/55984-shadows-way-too-darkblack-intendedscreenshot-solved/
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Re-installing DirectX and PhysX.
NVIDIA moderator says some of the games is required to play some older Physx games, but not sure if it works.
If you would like to have a try.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/524066/geforce-drivers/official-nvidia-r310-61-beta-display-driver-feedback-thread-released-11-20-12-/post/3714758/#3714758
I'd suggest to post the issue on EA, steam or obioware and see if there are people looking into it.

MSI GE70 Apache Pro 0-61 msata SSD

Hello guyz,
I have recently ordered the above mentioned MSI laptop. As it does not come with an ssd. So i thought of adding one to it. After searching google i found that an msata ssd can be added to this model. I wanted to confirm here on the official msi forum. I am thinking of buying a Samsung Evo 840 msata ssd 250gb for this upgrade. Can you please confirm will this ssd be compatible with this laptop model ? and is it ok if i install a new OS (windows 8.1) on the new ssd for booting purpose and not deleting the old OS. Lastly please do confirm if the laptop has an extra msata ssd slot . As i have still not received the laptop so thought of ordering an msata to use it with. Waiting for your replies Thankyou

The GE70 should come with 2 mSATA sockets (I believe), assuming that there is none installed already.
Yes, the Samsung 840 EVO should work fine. (95% sure about that)
I would use the MSI Burn Recovery disks that you NEED TO MAKE when you first setup your notebook (I HIGHLY SUGGEST MAKING THESE) to reinstall Windows onto the SSD. I would remove your OLD HDD and install the SSD and then use those recovery disks to install the OS.

'Which is better quality?' EVGA or MSI - Nvidia GeForce GTX 760

Hiya
I am looking for feedback and suggestions on which manufacturer creates the best video card hardware particularly the 760 I am currently looking at two cards but am also open to other suggestions and feedback on cards
has anyone had any experience with MSI video cards?
these are the two cards I currently have in mind
EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2765-KR GeForce GTX 760 2GB
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130932
MSI Gaming N760 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 760 2GB
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127745
does the MSI have any advantage over EVGA in longevity with something like solid state Japanese capacitors? I am kinda looking for a card that will last the longest with out warranty support ect
and do MSI cards have rust problems? I thought I would ask just to be sure when I made a account I saw this thread at top of forum with a picture that will surely haunt my dreams
forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=171735.0

This is an MSI forum. Discussing competing brand's products is not allowed. The MSI card is a great one. Google it and check online reviews.
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and do MSI cards have rust problems?
No, I'm using all kinds of MSI vgas for more than 10 years and have never seen anything like the pic in that thread. It's something the user did physically to this card as that doesn't happen just after time.

MSI GE70 Apache Pro-012 Audio Problem Crackling noise

I an having problems with my audio, there is a crackling noise every 5-10 seconds. It has been doing it since i have got the laptop 3 weeks ago. Does any one know how to fix this? I would appreciate if you could help, Thanks.

Quote from: Superduper97;113794
Yes it happens with headphones too and I have the latest driver from Realtek. And yes I do have a Logitech wireless mouse dongle, But that makes no difference. I have also tried running it on the battery and that makes no difference either.
Try to use the audio driver from MSI website(6.0.1.7349) and check if the sound remains without any USB devices plugged.
http://download.msi.com/nb_drivers/ad/audio_realtek_6.0.1.7349_0xaa9a2725_81700.zip
Which movie player are you using? Change another one and see if the problem remians.
What kind of video/music files are you playing?

MSI GE70 Apache Pro death pixels!!!

Hi I found on my 6 months old laptop a death pixel plus 2 gray pixels.. I try some fix for that but nothing happened.. I read MSI policy about that but in this is only saying for TFT technology.. But GE70 have LED technology so I want to know how much death or any others pixel I need have for repair under the warranty.. Thanks for reply :-)

I think the rule is the same, but you can check with MSI.
LCD (Liquid Crystal Display) Screen Bad Pixel Policy:
All notebook displays use TFT* technology, manufactured according to high industry standards, to guarantee trouble-free personal computing. Nevertheless, your display may have cosmetic imperfection that appears as small bright or dark spots. This is common to all LCD displays and cannot be avoided by any of our models. These imperfections are caused by one or more defective pixels or sub-pixels. MSI follows the common bad pixel policy from the industry.
Following the industry standard, MSI warrants a defective LCD display as having 5 or more bad pixels*. It's required that users to contact the original , or MSI within 30 days from the invoice date for a replacement.
* 5 abnormal pixels for 14" or smaller LCD display and 7 abnormal pixels for 15" or larger LCD display.
* TFT LCD is a variant of LCD uses Thin Film Transistor Technology to improve image quality.
http://www.msimobile.com/warranty/2yr_notebooks.aspx

Looking for Custom BIOS for Laptop *MSI GE70 Apache Pro 061* Win 8.1 64

I installed two G Skill Ripjaws 8GB 2133 Mhz Ram chips into my Apache Pro laptop. The speeds only show up as 1000 Mhz. I am trying to get a custom BIOS so I can make the necessary changes to that will allow my memory to run up to speed. Can anyone out there help me out with this? Thanks.

Thanks, Nichrome. However, the price difference between 1600 Mhz and 2133 Mhz was not much at all. I've future proofed myself if I decide to upgrade the CPU or even get a better laptop down the road. These ram sticks should at least be backwards compatible to 1600 Mhz, but still I'm not able to make it run at that speed. I'm still going to need a custom BIOS to make those changes. I appreciate the reponse, nonetheless.

Msi GE70 Apache Pro average tempature?

Hello,
I just bought this laptop the other day, ( it was a display model). I love love msi laptops they are amazing!
I Just have a question, what average temperatures should I be getting with this thing?
I have the turbo fan on and I get up to about 80-90 C on my cpu temperature just streaming twitch, Is this too hot?4
I'm posting this while downloading a game, streaming spotify and some other stuff, I have the turbo fan on and it's at 65-70 C
Thanks
Ben

Don't worry about the temperature, they're quiet normal.
The temperature is depending on the loading of the CPU or the GPU.
For the streaming tools, it actually takes quiet bigger loading of the CPU. (The minimum system requirement for a 1080p video on the XSplit gamecaster will take an i7 CPU)
If you're multi-tasking with downloading games, streaming spotify and opening several tabs at the same time, temperature 65 to 70 degree is quiet normal.

MSI GE70 Apache Pro-061 Custom/modded Bios

Hello im new on these forums and would just like to know if i could get a custom/modded bios for my laptop. I would really like to lift the restrictions with overclocking on the gtx 860m card. Current bios version: E1759IMS.520; Running windows 8.1 64-bit. Thanks ahead of time.

Quote from: Svet on 07-June-15, 03:55:47
yes its possible to be done
Sorry for being ignorant lol, but can you maybe point me in the direction to attain the modded bios? Thank you.

RAM Upgrade for MSI GE70

Hello there.
I'm considering upgrade my system too. But my own has a 4th generation chipset. So, I've some questions:
1: May I use 1.35v RAM?
2: Can I know RAM type currently installed in my MSI GE70? (es.msi.com/product/nb/GE70-2OC.html#specification)
3: Is it posible to plug in two diferent RAM types?
Thanks!

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1: May I use 1.35v RAM?
You MUST use 1.35v DDR3L. Mobile Haswell cpus don't work with other ram.
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2: Can I know RAM type currently installed in my MSI GE70? (es.msi.com/product/nb/GE70-2OC.html#specification)
There is no general answer. This is oem ram. Any batch might use different sticks. You need to open the unit to find out what is used in your machine.
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3: Is it posible to plug in two diferent RAM types?
Possible yes, recommended no. It might work fine but can cause stability issues. A matched kit is recommended.

GE70-Apache Pro w7 extrem frame drops

Hi There ,
Ive just got a MSI GE70 -Apache Pro w7 but if i cant play battlefield 4 multiplayer without frame drops if i set the settings on medium and it drops down to 29 fps with micro lags i think it uses the Intel graphics instead oft the GTX 860 but how can i change that ive Seen people playing on ultra with this GPU.
Specs:
I7 4710hq
8gb RAM
Gtx860
Windows 7
Plesse help.
BTW: sorry for my english i'm From Germany.

Quote from: jannes.oppermann on 11-January-15, 17:06:52
Hi There ,
Ive just got a MSI GE70 -Apache Pro w7 but if i cant play battlefield 4 multiplayer without frame drops if i set the settings on medium and it drops down to 29 fps with micro lags i think it uses the Intel graphics instead oft the GTX 860 but how can i change that ive Seen people playing on ultra with this GPU.
Specs:
I7 4710hq
8gb RAM
Gtx860
Windows 7
Plesse help.
BTW: sorry for my english i'm From Germany.
start up your game bf4 tell me if your power button is orange when game is runing if so then nvidia is active if not it will be blue which means intel
Intel = Blue
Nvidia = Orange

Say Goodbye to my old desktop! Got my new high mobility and performance MSI GE70 2PC Apache!

Time to get rid of my old PC, which is barely can run latest games. So, after I made some researches online, I decided to buy MSI GE60 2PC Apache. It perfectly matches my budget.
The box inside comes with black design. The notebook is protected by a black sleeve.
The packing includes a power adapter, MSI branded gaming mouse, a battery, CD, and manuals. I especially like the adaptor design in slim and compact size.
The metal brush front cover looks gorgeous. I like the red dragon badge with backlight enabled. This is one of my favorites in this notebook. I believe it will make my new notebook stand out from the other Apxle notebooks when I use it in my campus. “The fruit” is not the only shining star anymore. 
There is a red line on the side~~
Here comes my new notebook. Btw, the packing also comes with a MSI bag.
The labels says it features with Matrix Display (extend to 3 external monitors), Killer lan (network for gaming applications), Steelseries keyboard, and Audio Boost.
The touch pad is in one piece. Again, metal brush!!
Intel i7 and NVIDIA GTX 850M inside of my new baby. 
Audio system is powered by DYNAUDIO. As I checked online, this is a Danish brand and seems to be very famous. 
Steelseries keyboard~ I think I don’t need to mention what Steelseries is. All gamers should know it.
I found one thing very special that the Windows key is moved to the right. According to MSI website, it is for games not to mis-touch the Windows key in gameplay. Very ergonomic design for gamers.
It has an individual numerical key area. Good for my accounting courses.
He he he… I used my Cannon digital camera for below full color backlight keyboard picture! I tried several shots. This one is the best one to show. Anyway, the point here is the color configurations can be customized!!
720P webcam!
On the left, you can find one HDMI, two USB3.0, golden audio jack with Audio Boost feature, and one combo memory card slot.
On the right, you can find one RJ-45 with Killer lan feature, one VGA port, two USB2.0, and BD Combo drive.
The panel can be opened up to roughly 135 degree. I think it is good enough. I am not going to use it as a tablet.
Sound by DYNAUDIO with 2.1 surround audio channel!
The close-up of the shining dragon logo on the front cover.
I find a secret feature.
When the notebook is running by Intel integrated graphics, the power indicator shows blue. However, when it is running by NVIDIA graphics, the indicator shows red.
Very good feature for me to know if the NV graphics is on when I play games.
Signal Indicators show wireless, Bluetooth, hard disk, and power status.
Okay, now it is the time to start the live demo.
Oops…my friend is calling me….need to go out with my friend now. After I finish the basic settings, I will find time to make real gameplay demo and share with you later.

Back again for my part 2 sharing.
Here is my testing result of 3DMARK on my MSI GE60 2PC Apache.
X7654
Boot up time - SSD
Sleeping dog - FPS
Need for Speed – FPS average 60 FPS. (this game only supports max 60FPS)
All settings are set to max
Conclusion:
The metal brush design on front and keyboard sides looks decent. I love its 17” FHD display which is good for playing games, watching videos, typing my reports in a comfortable way. After I got this, it is difficult for me to go back to smaller display.
I expected that online streaming could cost a lot of system resource. However, its Gamecaster Xplit online streaming feature surprised me! No lag and very easy to use! Its quick boot-up time with SSD and GTX 850M gave me a whole new PC experience.
The Haswell i7-4700HQ and NVIDIA GTX 850M are sufficient enough for games and online streaming. Not to mention it also carries Steelseries keyboard which is a Plus when I play games. I am glad that I decided to buy this GE70 2PC Apache to replace my old desktop because it can satisfy all my needs for gaming, multimedia, and document editing.
If you have the same demand as me and also looking for a notebook, it is worthy to give it a shot on MSI GE70 2PC Apache!!

MSI GE70 2PC 018NL Apache Overheating/No cooling

Last saturday i bought an MSI GE70 laptop as my old laptop was getting outdated.
The laptop has a i7 4700 CPU and GTX850M graphics card.
I followed the installation wizard which is shown starting the laptop and installed Windows 8.1
I resumed to update the graphics drivers to their latest version.
I installed ESO and found out that the laptop was feeling hot, and the FPS never came above 10 FPS.
Because of the heat i installed MSI Afterburner to check the core temperatures, and the CPU was at around 90 degrees, the GPU at around 92 degrees.
After doing some searches on the internet i found that some people said their laptop's cooling fan made quite a bit of noise. Mine on the other hand was completely quiet, i felt with my hand and could not feel any airflow.
I then tried the "ice cold?" button (correct me if i got the name wrong) to activate the cooling, but that also did not do anything.
When not running any applications except Windows the CPU core is ~80 degrees and the GPU is ~65 degrees.
Note: I did put the laptop on a Zalman 17" laptop cooler, with a big fan underneath, because i already know overheating problems.
Now, the store i bought it from does allow me to return it without any trouble. I just want to know if there is something i might be missing.
Something that might be done to activate the fans.
Thanks in advance for any replies,
Meervluis

Allright, update from my reseller:
- They agree with me that the laptop is broken, and i can get my money back OR for additional pay can get another system.
Now... i'd like some input from you guys
I found two laptops which i might want to buy, but i don't know which:
- MSI GE70 2PC 272NL Apache - Core i7 4710HQ (NVidia GTX850M 2GB DDR5) price new 1199,- euro
- MSI GT70 2PC 1084XNL Dominator - Core i7 4800MQ (NVidia GTX870M 3GB DDR5) price new 1349,- euro
Now, the apache comes with Windows 8.1, the Dominator with FreeDos (which i do not know :S)
Both of them do not have SSD, but i have two Samsung SSD's at home, so that's not a problem.
I'd say the dominator is more bang for bucks, but i have to install Windows 7 (which i have legally) myself.
Could you guys give me more information about both laptops? or experiences you've had.
Thanks so far,
Meervluis

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