Which Mac's have airport that can work on the new dual band Airport?

I have a MB470 Macbook Pro (Late 2008) and want to know if it can transmit on the 5GHz band if I were to buy the new AirPort Extreme Base Station dual band?
I checked the manual and spec but no mention.
Also from reading on this subject I have seen most articles saying only the original 802.11a band wifi products used 5GHZ bands and b/g/n use 2.4GHZ so what has happened there? Have manufacturers started using the 5GHZ again only recently and can products have their firmware upgraded to make them work on 5GHZ?

Also from reading on this subject I have seen most articles saying only the original 802.11a band wifi products used 5GHZ bands and b/g/n use 2.4GHZ so what has happened there?
The 802.11a standard works on the 5 GHz radio band; for 802.11b/g, it's the 2.4 GHz band, but for 802.11n it can be both bands.
Have manufacturers started using the 5GHZ again only recently and can products have their firmware upgraded to make them work on 5GHZ?
Use of the 5 GHz band for Wi-Fi is restricted in some countries due to conflicts with either military or governmental regulations. Manufacturers typically comply with these regulations in order to sell their products in such countries "legally."
Firmware alone, in most cases, will not solve the problem. The device would have to have the proper antennae & transceiver to meet the appropriate standard in order to provide the wireless network.

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Why does the new Dual-Band AirPort Extreme Base Station act as a proxy?

The previous thread
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1531675
has been archived and nothing came of it, but after testing, I'm certain that their findings are true.
The Dual-Band AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) with firmware 7.4.1 acts as a proxy for TCP ports 21, 554, and 7070 when NAT is turned on. This can be verified by using Nmap on any external server known to NOT have the ports open and having Nmap return that the ports are open. You can telnet to these ports to verify that they're "open," even though they are not on the server.
This functionality appears to be undocumented and as far as I can tell, the only way to turn it off is to put the AEBS into bridge mode and having some other device do NAT further upstream.
As a computer professional, this functionality extremely undesirable, particularly since it is not documented and doesn't have an "off switch." I wasted a bunch of time with one of my network engineers because of this, thinking that some network router was spoofing our server. I also wasted a bunch of my time trying to detect whatever "stealthy rootkit" had opened a FTP server and some other botnet related ports on our server, when in reality, it was simply my AEBS tricking me.
Disabling NAT-PMP ("Enable NAT port mapping protocol") does not affect this.
Is it too much to ask to have a checkbox in the "Advanced" section of the AirPort Utility to turn this feature off?

Welcome to the discussions forum Michael Bennett2.
Thanks for investigating this odd behavior.
If you want your work to be noticed by those who can effect change, you'll have to tell Apple via their feedback link. It won't do any good to post it here.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/

No more WDS networking in the new dual band airport extreme?

we had a network of 3 airport extremes in our small 2 story design studio, we bought a new dual band to see if it would help with our DSL problem [it did], but there is no more WDS networking option available. this unit replaced our MAIN WDS unit. so now we are left with 'extending the network' option. it seems to be working, but what is the reason behind no more WDS?

WDS gives you more control over your network. You can set-up certain base stations as relays and others as remotes. Using the "Extend a network" option just tells the base stations to try and find other base stations. It is much easier for a novice to set-up, and I think this is probably why Apple has highlighted this feature as opposed to WDS (where you have to specify MAC addresses for all base stations and remotes).
WDS is nice if you have a mixed network with older b/g base stations since they don't have the option to "Extend a network" or "Allow this network to be extended".

What version of ipad 4g shoud i buy here in the US that can work in the philippines local data provider? at

what version of ipad 4g shoud i buy here in the US that can work in the philippines local data provider? at&t or verizon? any idea anyone?

Ah, I see, ask your provider what type of cell service they use the following outlines what the two iPads offer.
Model for AT&T: 4G LTE (700, 2100 MHz)3; UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Model for Verizon: 4G LTE (700 MHz)3; CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz); UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
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V. Slow transfer speeds with new dual band Airport Extreme

I have a new Airport Extreme (late 2009, dual band, full 'N' spec) which I am using to replace an older Airport Extreme (early 2008, 5Ghz, 'draft' N).
I have a USB disk attached and was interested in benchmarking the transfer speed of the new Extreme, compared to the previous version. The results are puzzling / alarming.
Shown below are transfer speeds (file copied to the attached USB drive) under different connection standards (2.4Ghz / 5Ghz & a/b/g/n)
'Old' Airport Extreme
5Ghz - 'draft' N : ~5-7 Mb/sec
'New' Airport Extreme
2.4Ghz - b/g : ~3-5 Mb/sec
5.0Ghz - a : ~3-7 Mb/sec
5.0Ghz - N : ~200 Kb/sec
Hence transfer speeds appear to collapse when I try to make use of the 'N' spec with the latest Extreme. I have tried altering items such as - wide channels (on / off), interference robustness (on / off), 5Ghz channel (manual, instead of auto), with no upside.
I seem to be at the point of concluding that either
1. I have a 'broken' Airport Extreme
2. The WiFi card on my early 2008 iMac (which implements I guess the 'draft' N standard) is 'incompatible' with new the Airport Extreme under a 'N' connection.
Any thoughts ?

Since all devices in my wireless network are capable of latest 802.11n protocol, I really do not need older and slower 802.11a/b/g protocols. To achieve above 200 Mbit/sec, 5GHz band with wide channel option turned on is really necessary. Thus I really wish I can turn off the 2.4GHz radio band (seems Apple has set this band as default) of my new dual band Airport Extreme to avoid unwanted bandwidth degradation. Unfortunately this is not possible with radio mode setting in Airport Utility.
The best I can do to force connection with 5GHz radio band (with quite consistent result) is as follows:
On Airport Extreme through [Airport Utility>Wireless] :
Radio Mode: 802.11n only (5Ghz) - 802.11b/g/n
More Options>Wireless Network Option>Transmit Power: 100%
More Options>Wireless Network Option>Use Wide Channels: checked
More Options>Wireless Network Option>5 GHz Network Name:
checked and same network name with extra suffix "(5 GHz)"
On 27" iMac through [System Preferences>Network>AirPort>Advanced>AirPort]:
Preferred Networks:
Create only one profile in Preferred Networks for the above network name with suffix "(5GHz)"
Uncheck the option [Remember networks this computer has joined] to ensure there is only one profile under Preferred Networks .
Once all above settings are done, restart Airport Extreme in Airport Utility. Your computer should connect wirelessly to the base station through 5GHz band after booting most of the time. Even when it is not occasionally, simply go to the Airport icon in main menu bar and click on the network name with suffix "(5GHz)" in dropped-down list to connect manually. With all these settings, I have achieved 300 Mbit/sec bandwidth on my iMac most of the time for fast Time Machine backup.
How I wish feature for better radio mode control by end user will be implemented in next update of Airport Utility. Apple should trust end user's brain better than artificial intelligence (or ignorance ?) in wireless network implementation. Wireless traffic between the two radio bands and among various wireless devices should be segregated specifically in Airport Utility by end users whenever dual band Airport base stations are in use.

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We have an iphone 5 but iTunes won't recognize it because we need a newer version (currently 10.6.3). After trying to download newest version of iTunes, it tells us we can't finish the download because we need a newer version of OS X (currently 10.5.8)... there aren't any software updates available so I'm at a loss!

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Would you recommend upgrading again to Mountain Lion after the Snow Leopard upgrade?
Yes, Lion and Mountain Lion are a significant upgrade from Snow Leopard, and they fully support iCloud syncing.
First verify that your model number supports Mountain Lion (I'm pretty sure it does), then check how much RAM you have. Your model only comes with 1 GB (https://support.apple.com/kb/sp16), which is inadequate for later versions. Upgrade to 4 GB if you haven't already. The upgrade is a do-it-yourself project that will take 5 minutes if you are at all handy with modern electronics; you just remove the 1 GB DIMM and insert 2 2GB DIMMs. Here's an example of a memory upgrade kit: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Modules-Macbook-KTA-MB667K2-4GR/dp/B001265GI2/ref =sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362357462&sr=8-2&keywords=imac+memory+2gb.
This is not an endorsement of this vendor or this manufacturer; it is just a reference for the type of memory you need. (Not that there's anything wrong with Amazon or Kingston.)

Apple sent me a new iPod touch to replace the one that stopped working. The new one has the same problem as the old one. Should I send it back?

I bought an iPod touch 4th genertion in August 2013. About 3 weeks ago, iTunes told me an update was available for my iPod so I clicked update. It then said it had detected an iPod in recovery mode and I had to restore my iPod. I tried to restore it when another pop up appeared saying an unkown error occured and it was unable to restore my iPod. I talked to someone on the online help page and they said I needed to talk to someone on the phone because it was too complicated to explain. The first person I spoke to on the phone could not identify my problem so she got her supervisor who said I needed to send it in for repair. I sent it in and yesterday I received a brand new iPod in the mail with a letter saying they could not fix my old iPod and this was a replacement. I plugged the new iPod into my computer to restore it and everything was fine. It said my software was not up to date so I clicked update and the exact same thing happened with the new ipod. It told me to restore my iPod and then said it was unable to be restored. They replacement arrived yesterday. Should I send it back?

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Will Airport Express 802.11g network with a new Dual Band Airport Extreme?

Bob Timmons I need your help. I have a older Airport Express, can I use it to extend my wireless network to the far reaches of my house by linking it to my new Airport Extreme 802.11n?
There must be an article on this somewhere.
Thanks!

Welcome back!
If by "older" AirPort Express, you mean it is a "b/g" version, you'll have to use the WDS setup options on both the new AirPort Extreme"n" and the AirPort Express.
Unfortunately, two negative things will occur when you setup WDS:
1) Because WDS is a "g" technology thing, the entire wireless network will drop down to "g" wireless levels. So, you lose any advantages of "n" speeds with your new router.
2) The bandwidth on the entire wireless network will be cut 50%.
Bottom line, you will have a "g" wireless network operating at half of it's capability. That's a tremendous loss of performance for a bit more wireless coverage, but you may disagree.
WDS is difficult for most users to set up because it is very easy to make a mistake. Look over this post to get an idea of what is involved with this. There is also a link to Apple's instructions in this post, but the step by step by expert user Tesserax is easier to follow.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2287950&tstart=0
I do not recommend WDS, but it's your call.

Final Cut Pro HD 4.5 Will not work with the new dual core dual processors

Does anyone know of any solutions that will avoice having to purchase the FCP 5.

Yes...
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You either need to either:
1) use the following hack -
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/feedback/finalcut_pro_on_oldmacs.html
or
2) Upgrade to FCP 5
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302667
Shane
"There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!"

Can I dedicate the 5 GHz band to one specific devise?

I've got the new Dual band n Airport Extreme (AE) that I would like to dedicate the 5GHz band to one specific devise and have all others use 2.4. My goal is giving the most 'horsepower' to my work laptop upstairs, all others can use the 2.4. Being on another floor, I need all the help I can get with strong connections and good performnace.
Short and sweet bullets include:
Current Devices:
-Dell laptop for work. 5GHz band card will be installed shortly.
-iMac, Lion OS, 3 mos old. Recently hard wired to the AE as perofrmance was spotty when connected wirelessly even though the AE is 20 ft away.
-iPhone 4s, iPhone 4, iPad (1st gen)
-HP printer wirelessly connected to the AE
-An old Droid I connect to the internet once in a blue moon
-A blue ray player (rarely use to stream Nexflix)
-HD TV with access to Netflix, etc (rarly use)
Smat folks will quickly notice only the laptop can access the 5GHz band given my iMac (only devise 5Ghz) is hardwired. That will change....Apple TV will be purchased. Also, 1 yr old son may say "hey this cord looks great, why I dont I pull it to see what falls first, the iMac or AE". This question answers near-term questions as I expand devices and helps really prepair for my next 2-3 devices.
I understand the process of setup a seprate name for the 5GHz band. Guidance needed- How do you "point" the laptop to the 5GHz band. I've looked fo the option on my iMac (previos to hardwiring it) wiht no luck. My chaallenge is figuring out how have the laptop read adn connect to the 5GHz band automatically...I don't have the setup to automatically have devised choose which band whey would like to use. i've looked numerous arcieles and I can find where people describe in sufficien detail >>>>Please be as specific as possible on each step is required to get my laptop to recogize and connect with the 5GHz band.
Some addtl questions
1- Can I tell which devise is connected with an n, g, b, whatever band? I dont want anything degreading the bandwitch of the 2.4 GH2 band.
Can you tell which devises are using those bands (n,g, ?) bands. As i understand, in this specific case, if I have 20 different devisce all using the 4Ghz band, I want to make sure my laptop gets the best performance.
Thanks!

You already have assigned a separate name to the 5 GHz band on the router, so to have a Mac connect to that band, you would do the following:
Open System Preferences (gear icon) on the dock
Open Network
Click on AirPort or Wi-Fi
Click Advanced at the lower right
Make sure that the name of the 5 GHz network is first in line at the top of the connection order list. Drag it to the top if it's not already there.
Delete any other networks that you no longer need by clicking on them to highlight them, and then clicking the - (minus) button at the bottom of the list.
Make sure that there is a check mark next to "Remember networks this computer has joined"
No other boxes should be checked
Then open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > KeyChain Access, locate the listing for the networks that you no longer needed, and delete the entry for each of them.
I would like to see how (b/g or n) my other devises are connecting to the Airport Extreme.
Open AirPort Utillty 5.x, select the AirPort Extreme, and click Manual Setup
Click on Wireless Clients about 2/3 of the way down the page
The window will display the MAC address of each wireless device along with info about the connection. You will need to do a bit of investigative work to figure out which MAC address matches up with each wireless device.
My understanding is that a router will use the lowest of the connections (if one devise is connecting via b, all other devises will connect b).
No, that is a common tale that we hear, but it is not correct. Each wireless device will connect to either 2.4 GHz or 5 Ghz based on its capabilities. It will do the same as far as whether it connects at "n", "g", or "b" speeds. For example, my laptop connects at "n" speeds while my old iPhone connects at "g" speed. The slower iPhone connection has virtually no impact on the "n" connection with the laptop.
I used a wi-fi analyzer to determine the best channel, and it indicated chanel 14 was the best.
If you are in the U.S. or Canada, then you can only use channels 1-11 on the 2.4 GHz band. The U.K. uses channels 1-13.

Can I get the new MacBook with a 1 tb Hard Drive?

Well very good looking the new (GOLD) MacBook announced on Monday 9 March 2015. But with just one USB-C port this means having a number of adapters with me at all times ---
But the big concern is whether I can get at least 1 tb of storage space. I have a 5 year old MB Pro with a 500 gb SSD and I removed the Optical Drive to install a 500 gb HD. Now 5 years later… Am I going to be limited to 8 gb of memory and 500 gb of storage space? Not a lot of progress there!
I know I can move to the 13" MacBook Pro and get more connection possibilities plus 16 gb of RAM and a 1 TB drive - but I would like to purchase the latest technology (especially since I keep my Macs a long time! - My 1989 SE is still running OS 6.0.4… --- OK I'm not planning on 26 year lifespans but hey, 5 years, yes, please!)
Any comments appreciated. I see where they say one can move to 1.3 gHz (turbo to 2.9) - but I don't see where to select that on the Apple Store -- and I see nothing about where to select 16 gb of RAM nor a 1 tb SSD.
Thanks for any comments or opinions or web links!
Best regards,
Steve Schulte
Monday 9 March 2015

Wow this is a great reply! I did not mean to imply that I would consider or even imagine that a 5200 rpm Hard Drive or anything like that would work with the new MacBook – but what I had NOT considered was that a standard SSD like I have in my MBP-13" (2010 mode)l would also NOT FIT in this almost iPad thin new MacBook! Of course you are 100% right - it is going to be a real special flash drive -- and yet I am surprised that a 1 tb is not at least offered - even if for $400 or so more--- and I think this is so they have some way to differentiate the MacBook (new) with the MB Air and the MB Pro.
Certainly tempting! I will wait to see what Belkin and others offer as to docks - and also to see if Apple doesn't offer a 1 tb option within a year.
Thanks for your fine reply!!!!!!
Best regards,
Steve Schulte
Monday 9 March 2015

I have Time Machine that I used to back up my old computer. It was running snow leopard. My MacBook died, so I got a new one which is running Lion. how can I restore the data from the time capsule to my new Mac?

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In technical support, sometimes you have to make educated guesses. I'm sorry that you were offended.
iTunes does prompt when it is going to erase a device, and the message is clear.
She said in her message that she was able to successfully sync the old ipad. This indicated to me that itunes wiping the data was not an issue, because either it had been setup at the apple store (in which case it doesn't actually wipe the ipad despite saying it will*) (*based on a single case I saw), or because the itunes media folder was migrated.
Furthermore, my solution was to tell her how to backup her ipad (by either doing it manually, or as a last resort, by deleting the corrupt backup -- that she couldn't access anyway.)
I got that last part of the instructions from the "Taking Control of your iphone" book which I found samples of when I did a google search for "corrupted backup itunes".
She marked this as a solution, so it worked for her.

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How difficult can it be to simply purchase the software on-line have it shipped to you so you can install it, in the event it cannot be downloaded as it appears it can't be based on my curent operating systems being Mac OSX 10.5.8.

Requirements for OS X 10.6 'Snow Leopard'
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP575
Whilst Apple have withdrawn Snow Leopard from download, you can still get it from Apple by calling 1-800-MY-APPLE (if you are in the USA) and they will supply the SL DVD for $30. You can also purchase the code to use to download Lion from the same number.
Requirements for Mountain Lion:
http://www.apple.com/osx/specs/

I have both a simultaneous dual band and a regular dual band airport extreme on an extended network will the 5ghz work at its full potential if its the one that is extending the network?

I have a A1143 model Airport extreme with dual band capabilities but not simultaneous, i'd like that to run on the 2.4ghz band, while i have a A1408 model airport extreme as the "extender" but i want to make sure that even though im running the 2.4 and the newer model is extendeding it, my simulataneous dual band will still work to its full potential (ie: 300mbs i think is the max for the 5ghz)..?
notes: no i can't use the newer model as the primary and the older model as the extender.

I am assuming that your simultaneously dual-band Extreme is using the same Network Name for both radios. If that is the case, and depending on the distance between AirPorts, the extending Extreme is most likely just extending the 2.4 GHz radio. That would leave the 5 GHz wireless network basically "untouched."

HT1296 I already have an itunes account on my laptop but have been setup on a mac and have songs that have not been purchased from the itunes store, I cannot get the songs from my iPhone onto my itunes account on the mac. how can I do this?

I already have an itunes account on my laptop but have been setup on a mac and have songs that have not been purchased from the itunes store, I cannot get the songs from my iPhone onto my itunes account on the mac. how can I do this?

You copy them from your old computer or your backup copy of your old computer.
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