Which OS X can a late 2007 MacBook with 4 Gb of RAM run?

I have a late 2007 MacBook 3.1 with Leopard 10.5.8 and a 2 GHz Core 2 Duo. I want to upgrade to 4Gb of RAM (Crucial) and an SSD (Crucial). If I do this, which OS X should I use?
Or if I use the stock HD with 4Gb RAM. To which OS X can I upgrade.

It's Mountain Lion after Lion. Then Mavericks (10.9) and Yosemite (10.10, current OS).
The older OS's still work just fine, though you may find that security updates don't get released for them. I haven't seen anything about such updates not being released for Lion so far, though Snow Leopard has been left behind the last few times an update was released. I would not be surprised if Lion gets dropped sooner rather than later.
The only other issue is that Safari would probably too old to work well on some websites (Gmail, for example, will show you a message that says the browser isn't supported), but you can switch to Firefox or Chrome to get around that issue.
There are free programs that do about the same as Microsoft Office - Libre Office (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/) is one of them. Office for Mac is kinda pricey unless you can get it through a school or work license. They may end up releasing a new version in the next year or two, though they've been pushing the Office 365 subscriptions instead so who knows.
Software developers for the most part are pretty good about including the older OS's - many of them only require Snow Leopard (10.6), so that's a plus!
Best of luck with the upgrade - I think you'll find it breathes new life into that computer of yours
~Lyssa

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