Which PSU for MSI K8N Diamond Plus?

I am so frustrated ... I have spent over 6 hours trying to find out which power supplies I can use with the MSI K8N Diamond Plus.
I am not able to find any PSU that has 24 pin, 8 pin and 4 pin power connectors ... do you have to get them custom made or something? I am in Switzerland and it is hard to track these things down if you do not speak the language.
This is the page which I am using to try and find a compatible PSU:
http://www.stegcomputer.ch/browse.asp?cat=376
I think the Spire Rocketeer VI should work but am not sure.
Can anybody recommend a PSU that is compatible with this board? Please.

Quote from: russellmrgn on 27-March-06, 20:51:26
Off topic.
Kenito443,
I see you have the Stacker830, was looking at that case myself. How do you find it performance / quality wise?
Russell
Yeah i love it...the cooling is amazing, my case never goes above 30C and the cpu idles at 22c and never goes over 27C even when OC'd,.. granted i have substantial cooling for the cpu. the case is completely tool less and boasts a up to 9 12cm fans...the case is double encased Al so with a silent PSU (true 500W), which is my set up , it is extremely quiet. i was going to get the lian li until i saw both of them on display. the lian li seemed a little harder to set up for water cooling -if i wanted that option in the future, and the tool less feature for the cm stacker was a lot more appealing. Interestingly, it has its own proprietary hard drive noise reduction and cooling doohickey. Also, the mb has this cool pull out tray plus the PSU rail is really easy to accomadate for a larger PSU. the store where i bought it from in santa clara CA threw in some of these nice dust filters with the case and I was sold. the only con was the price, i paid around $230, which is a little expensive for a CM....oh and a word of warning , the case doesnt really look that big in pictures, but it is HUGE !! it has 10 5.25-inch bays..you can fit every single imaginable peripheral and still have room to fit your kitchen sink..i was definitely surprised to see how big it was in person.

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MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Guide to my first week

OK, not a newb here, but been around the block quite a bit. MSI K8N Diamond Plus is my 5th A64 mobo (ECS K8M800, my daily undestroyed computer, K8T800, my 12 year olds gamer, Asus A8V Deluxe, first 939 system, Abit AN8 SLI, first SLI gamer, and now the MSI Diamond Plus). Had the KDP (K8N Diamond Plus) for more than a week now, and here's what I've learned.
This is state of the art again, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for the pain this causes us when we upgrade like lunatics
And as usual, the drivers and BIOS are al Dente (i.e. not cooked enought yet, a little raw)
MSI is also oddly silent on this system, which is wierd, as they are a large company, and specifically cater to enthusiasts. But their BIOS guys are MIA. Hopefully this will not be forever. Asus, ABIT, DFI, Epox are always fast with fixes
The board is a nice design, with everything basically accessible, as much as any other board. Lots of purposeful components, not too many dumb frills. No tooty fruity colors, but rather practical parts.
The new 2 piece NForce chipset is fine, and the MSI guys gave us a decent, but funky cooler. It gets a little warm to the touch when you pound on it with Prime95, or Quake4, but other than that it is fine
The manual has a zillion typos, and fortunately for us in this forum, we have shared what we've learned. The translation from Chinese to English leaves quite a bit to be desired, and hopefully, MSI will learn from Asus and Abit and get a better translation service. In 2006 this is just plain stupid, especially with a $225 board
As usual, the mobo supplied tweaker utilities are just aweful. They look like a hallucination from a Hunter S Thompson book, and they work about as well. Core center is a sad state of affairs, and the rest of them just burrow their way into your otherwise stable system and cause it to have poor behavior. And therefore as usual, the BIOS is the best way, if slowest, to tweak this bundle of parts
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
The board is clearly sensitive, which is a result of it being high strung. This is no different than any "first out" product I've ever bought. Most take 2 or 3 turns of the crank to get totally stable and forgiving. This one hated my OCZ platinum EL 2Gb kit memory, and it brought out the worst in one of the SLI based EVGA 7800 GT COs. These components worked in the Abit AN8 SLI (although not always great), but the MSI has ZERO tolerance for even the slightest pertubation from the memory. It was BSOD city until I removed both of these components by process of elimination that took probably 100 hours
Once I removed the bad components, and replaced the memory with Geil Ultra X 2x512 2-2-2-5, it worked great, ran Prime95 for 10 hours with no errors, and seems reasonably stable. I've RMA-d the bad 7800GT CO back to EVGA, and will report back on how SLI behaves when I get the new one (cross shipped of course, I haveno patience )
I also now need to replace the 2Gb RAM kit with something that the board will tolerate. I may RMA the 2Gb kit back to OCZ and try another one, but I dunno. I love OCZ but I have a bad feeling about this, even though they have great!!! support. I may try OCZ PC4000 or the RAM that Roger successfully used.
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth
Finally, I hope this board attracts more people, and therefore more tweakers that can figure out all these gadgets and settings. Everyone flocked to the Asus X16 SLI product, which is too bad, as this one needs lots o' folks to hack it up for us to figure out what is going on.
The on board Creative audio sounds lousy to my ears, and I will replace it with an Audigy 2ZS gamer that I had in the Abit. It just sounds better, but hopefully the drivers will not trash my newly stable system. Creative scares me, they scare me alot.
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
I hope this info is somewhat valuable to someone on this board. I will post details of all changes that I make, as others are doing, so we can at least take care of ourselves with this thing.

Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
first of all, i do think that all the settings in the BIOS have an explanation in the manual, even if it's a basic one. if that explanation doesn't tell you everything in detail, is because if you do need a detailed explanation of the settings, you probably shouldn't be messing around with those settings.
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth.
wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
a 0.5V bump? again, you must be joking. maybe 0.05V.

Tips for my K8N Diamond Plus

so although i have been into hardware for awhile now i have never really been a big OC'er. it was never something i really wanted to do since i work my arse off to get my hardware. my buddy recently OC'ed his micro-ATX board with his AMD 3700+ from 2.2 to 2.9 on a stock heatsink and he is sitting stable. this got me thinking and wanting to try out a bit of OC'ing just to see what i am able to push my system until i upgrade from my current CPU to a new 4400+ dual core. so here is my system and im just looking for tips/a quick walkthrough of what i need to tweak to OC my box and keep it stable.
CPU: AMD 3500+ 939-socket, Newcastle core stock at 2.2ghz
MoBo: MSI K8N Diamond Plus with the 3.09 BIOS
RAM: 2x1gig sticks of PQI Turbo 400mhz/PC3200 timings of 3-4-4-7
PSU: Sunbeam 550watt SLI certified
Video Cards: 2x eVGA 7900gt's SLI'ed
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basicly all i would need is something like this for my settings:
multiplier:
vcore:
FSB:
DRAM/FSB:
mem timings:
HT settings:
and anything else i have left out.
again, i would really appreciate the help.

Quote from: Stick on 22-November-06, 19:13:44
geez guys, can't believe you haven't spoted the mistake yet.
first, the newcastle is socket 754, there is no newcastle core for socket 939.
k8n diamond plus doesn't have a 3.09 BIOS.
so iostream, please make sure that you get the details correctly.
tiresmoke, syar and bosskiller, slacking guys, slacking? (joke)
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Core Newcastle s.939(http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=65000304) ----> CPU ID: http://www.techpowerup.com/cpudb/details.php?id=43
MSI K8N Diamond Plus BIOS 3.09 exist, can be found here:( 6 = MS-7220 bios 3.09) ---> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=101664.0

When will MSI K8N Diamond Plus hit the street

I need this card badly and A.S.A.P as I've managed to fry my 875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0)
The press center section where this product is posted does not say.
Release the Power of X16 MSI K8N Diamond Plus Sallying

Quote from: fafner on 17-November-05, 22:51:34
Skippy, I hope you are right. Please send me a PM if u find it is available at newegg.....I want to get one as soon as they are available. Thanks.
OK... will do.
I'd think that it will appear really soon though for 1 really big reason -
Screwing up & missing out on any of the holiday shopping season would be like shooting themselves in the "financial foot". Especially when they have a competitor that currently has that particular market to themselves with a hot product. Can't let that happen.
That's just "Marketing 101"... and my "fearless prediction", for whatever that's worth LOL!

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I built this system about 3 1/2 years ago. It has AMD 64 4000 San Diego. It still runs respectable, especially with new Radion 4850. My question is, what is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to, and is it worth while? Is the dual core a better choice than the single. Thanks for any advice.
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Quote from: Henry on 11-March-10, 12:41:52
It is to laugh Ha, Ha, I just sold an X2 4200+ on eBay Friday and it fetched $56 USD. That's only $20 less than I paid for it 2 or 3 years ago.
I've got an opteron 185 that I'll trade for a Big Bang Fuzion...

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Soundblaster Audigy on MSI K8N Diamond Plus, Sound Linked? vs Audigy2 ZS?

Had a couple of quick questions regarding the Soundblaster Audigy onboard chip on my MSI K8N Diamond Plus. I have the audio connected to a front panel, and when I try and change the Right or Left speaker volume balance in Windows (by going to volume control and dragging the balance slider right or left), the volume slider goes down and the balance slider snaps back to center. As in my previous post, I had some damage to my front panel connector pins and wanted to make sure this wasn't a hardware issue requiring a replacement of the board.
Also, I have a Soundblaster Audigy2 ZS card from my previous system, and I was wondering if it added anything the onboard Soundblaster chip doesn't provide. I was thinking of installing it, but if the onboard audio does everything the card would, I'd rather just use the onboard solution.
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Quote from: syar2003 on 21-August-06, 06:59:38
Onboard creative is just live24 marketed as Audigy SE
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MSI K8N Diamond Plus Question

Will the ThermalRight XP-90C Heatsink and 92mm fan work with this board? Thermalright's web site does not say anyything but I can't help but wounder if it will fit with that fanless cooler on the MOBO.
Thanks

Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 00:23:59
I've got an XP-90 installed and there is plenty of room. Plenty of airflow also. I'm at a constant 31-36 celsius, so no worries on the CPU. This cooler is large, I had it on an Asus A8V deluxe, an Abit AN8 SLI and now on the MSI K8N Diamond Plus, and its basically located on the same place regardless of mobo, so I wouldnt worry too much about it.
I did'nt mean that it has a massive effect on the temps, although comparing your rig to my last (AN8 Ultra, 3700 @ 2.7) my temps never went above 32'c idle and 44'c loaded!!
I meant that the airflow in my case struggles a little because the exhaust fan is right next to the hs and I cannot operate it the other way round due to my ram hs being so bloody large <damn you Corsair!!>
Sorry if I caused confusion!!

MSI K8N Diamond PLUS e AMD Opteron 185

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I have a MSI K8N Diamond PLUS (bios v.1.2), from the website the AMD Opteron 180 2.4 GHz socket 939 is compatible with the board.
No compatibility info about the cpu AMD Opteron 185 2.6 GHz socket 939. These 2 cpu are very very similar (only different clock).
Do you know if it's really compatible with MSI K8N Diamond PLUS
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Does new Zalman CNPS8000 fit on MSI K8N Diamond Plus?

Was wondering about this, and if there would be issues with the height of the copper northbridge heatsink the MSI K8N diamond plus has.
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MSI-K8N Diamond Plus - which memory?

Hello,
I will soon buy the K8N Diamond PLus motherboard. For that motherboard, I have selected the following memory: Corsair 512 Mo DDR-SDRAM PC3200 CMX Cas-2. But I can not find if this is ok for this type of motherboard. Does someone knows something about that? ???
Thx in advance!

Marlysa,
I would suggest that you stay away from the corsair xms ram as i figured the sme thing when I built my system, that it,s Corsair and its the #1 selected ram and usualy the most compatible, But this is not the case with this motherboard it's very picky about hardware pretty much the same as DFI board's!!!
Of course the CORSAIR WEBSITE will tell you this they want youre money!!!!!! Their certainly not going to reccomend OCZ MEMMORY that's for sure!!!!!
Please reconsider youre decision as I myself have traveled down that road you about to take. Personaly I love Corsair ram and i certainly wont bash it, but get the OCZ5002048ELGEGXT-K it cost me $213.00 wth tax for 2 gigs instead of $160.00 with tax for the corasir xms 2- 512 sticks Believe me you will be thankful that you took my suggestion!!!!! with the new 1.20 BIOS at optimized default's it posts and configures itself automatically where as befor you would usealy have to configure it manually in bios to get it to post at 500mhz believe me this OCZ MEMORY ROCKS!!!!
Save youreself alot of this.... BUY IT!!!!!!
Brother Esau
P.S just check around the forum their's alot of peop[le that have issues with the DIAMOND PUS AND CORSAIR RAM.

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I have 3 K8N Diamond Plus motherboards that recently started having intermittent problems POSTing to BIOS. I initially found it possible to boot by clearing CMOS and reentering my settings; however, over time these boards have gotten to where they will not POST at all. Power comes up, but the four-LED diagnostic display stays continuously red, indicating no BIOS activity. Ideally, I'd like to get my hands on a service manual for this board, but if anyone can throw out common issues with this board as a starting point, that would be great. All of these boards have been in service for more than 3 years in 3 different machines. The failure appears to have identical symptoms. I would bet the component that has failed is common to all 3 boards. It seems other people are having the very same problem with these boards over several years of service. I have tried all of the usual troubleshooting tactics with no success. Thanks!

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Which PSU for my K8N Neo Platinum

Hi
Since i have a lousy unbrand 'GYRO' PSU with 18A only on the 12v rail
I need to buy new one...so i need your help.
the ones i'm thinking about are:
Expensive ones ;(
OCZ PowerStream 420W
+3.3V@28A, +5V@30A, +12V@30A, [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
OCZ PowerStream 470W
+3.3V@28A, +5V@34A, +12V@33A, [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Antec 550W TruePower
+3.3V@32A; +5V@40A; [email protected]; +12V@24A; -12V@1A; +5VSB@2A
Less expensive
Antec 430W TruePower
+5V@36A, +3.3V@28A, +12V@20A, [email protected], -12V@1A, +5VSB@2A
Which one should i grab? perhaps there are also more good brands and modules..
Help would be appreciated
Thanks in Advance,
Gary.
System Specs:
AMD Athlon64 3200+ Newcastle
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
OCz EL Dual Channel Platinum 1GB (2x512MB) CAS 2-3-2-5 DDR400 PC3200
Seagate Barracuda 120GB 7200rpm 8MB Buffer, Native SATA
One Floppy Drive
Abit Siluro GeForce FX5200 DT
Creamware Luna II (my soundcard)
One CDROM Drive
One CD-RW Burner (soon to be installed)
2 generic case fans
Zalman CNPS 7000A-Cu
* System Currently not overlocked and never will be.

Quote
Originally posted by Styptic
That Antec issue sounds like nonsense to me...
I have also a friend of mine which has A64 system with Antec TruePower 420w without any issue.
Maybe...that dude used different module other than "TruePower" by Antec.
Antec's work fine and dandy with a64's for the majority of ppl, the issue arises when it is heavily o/ced I don’t mean 220 o/c mine starts to have probs @ about 2800mhz up, the 12volt rail gets taxed and usually shows up in dropping back to desk top and blank blue screens or plain old random restarts when loading the system i.e. bench marking.
To give you some idea my system would drop to about 11.2v with my msi neo and about 11.6 on the asus, a lad I know has just brought a k8ne asus board with 3200 Newcastle and his is even lower. But with all the o/cing these days more ppls are trying it hence problems all though some really have nothing to do with psu's
Not a huge issue as most ppls with a64 will never see O/c’s like that
I think that was over at AnandTech the review on the 64 mentioned the problems
he was having with antec's when O/Cing
I should add with antec , my tagan runs sweet as and didn't cost a arm and a leg

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So needless to say these sticks are going back. I have never in my years of building computers received memory in this bad of condition before, and although an isolated case it could very well be I have a very bad taste in my mouth considering the 300$ price of these.
I would welcome recommendations on 2 gb kits that would be suitable for this board and processor, preferably low latencey, doesn't have to be more than PC3200-3500 since I am not an extreme overclocker, tighter timings on a lower FSB are more important to me since I have a larger processor. G-Skill, Patriot, Mushkin? what works best for this board/bios?
thanks!

Grouse - I think you can increase your voltage to ram by moving the jumper pins JV1 on the motherboard 1 - 2 to 2 - 3 which gives 3.1 volts and up. But by moving that jumper voids the warrenty of the motherboard. Well that's what the sticker on it says :(
Jumper is JV1 on the motherboard
Select DDR Power Jumper: JV1
The DDR Power Jumper is used to boost the DDR power. The BIOS will auto
detect the mode you configure by hardware and provide the properly selection for
DDR Voltage field. The hardware jumper setting and the software BIOS selection
have to complement each other.
JV1 - Pins
1 |- 3|
- |- -|
16 |- 18|
^
Boost Mode
(3.3V~4.1V for you
to select in BIOS)
|1 -| 3
|- -| -
|16 -| 18
^
Normal Mode
(2.6V~3.2V for you
to select in BIOS)
(sorry about that, but you get the idea)
MSI Reminds You...
We are not responsible for any damage from changing the default value of
DDR voltage.

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