Which refurbished 15 inch MBP with 8GB RAM and 256GB Storage should I get? Which has a better graphics card for gaming?

Refurbished 15.4-inch MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-core Intel i7 with Retina Display $1,599.00
Originally released June 2012
15.4-inch (diagonal) Retina display; 2880-by-1800 resolution at 220 pixels per inch
8GB of 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
256GB Flash Storage
720p FaceTime HD Camera
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
Refurbished 15.4-inch MacBook Pro 2.4GHz Quad-core Intel i7 with Retina Display $1,659.00
Originally released February 2013
15.4-inch (diagonal) Retina display; 2880-by-1800 resolution at 220 pixels per inch
8GB of 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
256GB Flash Storage
720p FaceTime HD Camera
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
Refurbished 15.4-inch MacBook Pro 2.0GHz Quad-core Intel i7 with Retina Display $1,659.00
Originally released October 2013
15.4-inch (diagonal) Retina display; 2880-by-1800 resolution at 220 pixels per inch
8GB of 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
256GB Flash Storage1
720p FaceTime HD camera
Intel Iris Pro Graphics

If it were me, I'd save the $60 and get the 2.3GHz one.  Its only 4% slower in the specs and will be hardly noticeable  in use.  The only advantage to the newer one is the Haswell processor which might (note that it is only a might) give a little better battery life with a trade-off of 15% in raw performance.

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