Which to buy

hello i want to decide between a 13 inch macbook air and a 13 inch macbook pro.i will play latest games ,browse the net,want it to be portable,want to see hd videos and play music.i have 2tb external hdd so storage is not a problem.i also want to know the boot up times for macbook air and pro.cannot afford 15 inch and 17 inch macbook air.please help me decide on which t buy

wjosten wrote:
akshay menon wrote:
i will play latest games
Then get a PC, as neither of your two choices make good gaming machines.
That's the best advice in the thread.

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