Which upgrade option from Panther to Tiger?

Okay, tomorrow is the big day; I'm going to upgrade from Panther 10.3.9 to Tiger 10.4.3. I recently had some issues with my iBook, but they were resolved and turned out to be hardware related. As part of my troubleshooting for that, though, I did an erase and install of Panther, so my OS is pretty "new", in terms of how long it's been on the drive.
I've checked on a firmware update for my external drive (used for backup), I've backed up my main drive and run MacJanitor, I'll be repairing the disk and permissions from the Panther installation disk tomorrow before doing the upgrade (and again afterwards). Oh, and I'll be disconnecting all peripherals before starting the process.
My question is, should I do an Archive and Install, or would just the Upgrade option be safe for me? Any opinions?
Thanks for any replies.

My personal choice is the simple upgrade option. That preserves all of your custom settings and keeps everything in place. The A&I option is second best because some stuff moved to the Previous System folder has to be manually moved back. A disconcerting manual process. The E&I option requires reinstalling all 3rd-party items and resetting all of your preferences.

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with thanks to DAVID GIMENO GOST, for answering so many people's posts about all the mail 2.0 bugs.
hi guys,
i love all things apple, and i have done for twenty years.
but with respect, your build of mail 2.0 really could be a lot better.
moving my mail from 1.0 on an ibook g3 running os X 10.3.9, over to mail 2.0 on an intel macbook 1.83 running os X 10.4.7 has been a nightmare.
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having spent two weeks reading the knowledge forums, and learning about emailchemy, plus all the complications which, even with that third party program, still exist in moving one's mail over from version 1.0 over to 2.0, are both massive and horrendous.
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but this one is the most difficult i've ever seen, as well as being one of the most widespread problems in a FULL VERSION RELEASE of an apple program, which apple has done nothing to resolve during the six months in which this problem has been widespread in the mac community worldwide.
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please sort this out, and build a patch, for the sanity of the many people who love apple, but who are unable to access any of their old e-mails.
because i wouldn't wish the last fortnight on anyone else.
RSVP, APPLE.
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Important: Please read before installing
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B. Clone your existing system to an external Firewire drive.
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Upgrade from panther to tiger

hi,
i have MacOS 10.3.9 installed on my dual 2GHz, Power PC G5 [512 MB DDR SDRAM].
The operating will not upgrade automatically from web.
i would like to upgrade to panther.
do i need a software disc to do this?
if so does it matter which version of panther i upgrade to?
do i have to upgrade to 10.4.1 first?
thanks!!!

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Which upgrade option from Panther to Tiger?

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