Which video resolution uses less battery life?

I got an 80GB iPod about a month ago. All of my videos are converted in 320x240 H.264 resolution. I was thinking of re-converting to 640x480 for better TV output, but what effect will it have with the battery life when it is displayed on the screen? I assume that 320x240 will give better battery life since it has a smaller file size, hence it will not need to fill the cache as often, but maybe Apple rates battery life with 640x480 resolution?
Thanks in advance!
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your ipod video is only capable of using the lower resolution and it does not matter or use more or less battery life. When you are playing on the tv, your screen is off and it will use the same bat life no matter what the resolution

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3 Jun 2012 12:02:43 - kernel [0] (Debug): virtual void AppleRGBOUT::do_power_state_change(): fSoft: 0 fHard: 0 swapBusy: 0 fController: 0 -> 0
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These repeating messages appear approx every 30 seconds the wakeup packet contains the MAC addresses for my router and iPad, so one of them is misbehaving. This may be to do with how these have been implemented:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_Proxy_Service
Either way I believe this is the source of the power drain issue whilst in standby with Wi-Fi turned on, perhaps this could be a router issue and that is why the issue not hitting everyone post 5.1.1?
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