While Working In Lengthy Project - Locating Event in Events Window
While working on a lengthy project in the project window it would be nice to find my way back to that same section in the events window.
Is there any key stroke that will place the cursor back in the events window at the precise place where I am working in the project window ?
I look forward to upgrading to iWork9 and SL where hopefully this feature will be included.
Thanks
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I have had numerous laptop technicans befuddled by this WIFI problem and most concluding with how my WIFI card must be broken and that I will need to buy a new one. The last suggestion I had on the matter was to buy a USB wifi dongle.
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Is it possible to render previews on one computer while working on the project on another?
Hi!
Even with CS5 and a cuda card I still need to render a lot since I'm using lossless image sequences as my intermediate forms.
Would it be possible to take advantage of having multiple computers while working with Premiere? Maybe one computer could be dedicated just for preview rendering while the other one could be used for regular editing simultaneously? Is there anything on the market that does this?
I welcome any discussion on the subject!
Thanks!About the only thing you can do with Premiere is export out a sequence in the background while you continue working, then bring that back into Premiere and lay it down above the original sequence.
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Disk appears twice in Project and Event window
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I undocked a panel while working on a project how can I get back to the original setting?
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Window>Workspace>Reset X
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When I open a project saved on my external hard drive it wants to change the scratch disks to My Documents Folder.
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Project and Event Mgmt - Revisited
I started a discussion a few weeks ago about how to manage FCP x projects and events.
That discussion is here:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15630947#15630947
However, as I look more closely at my workflow as permitted by FCPx I have a quandary that I suspect others have as well.
Once I have created an event and a related project in the Events and Projects folder respectively, the question arises as what to do with those elements when you are done for the time being with both.
I have created a large number of projects, each with their own event. As I move on from them, I would find it useful to have them not show up in the active Project and Event lists in FCP X. But I do want to get back to them from time to time.
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As a freelance editor I'm always working on multiple projects and use this workflow to hide, show or backup projects and events.
As your aware while working on a project/event, these need to exists in the Final Cut Events folder and the Final Cut Projects folder.
In order to hide an event, simply move the event or events from the main Final Cut Events directory, back one level.
Example: I'm currently working on a productions where the events live on my Machintosh HD. First I create a folder called Final Cut Events HIDE.
Under your Home Directory/Movies/Final Cut Events/ move the event you'd like to hide to the Final Cut Event HIDE folder.
Be sure Final Cut Pro X has been quite.
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If you'd like to re-work on these events, simple quite Final Cut Pro X, drag and drop your "hidden" event or events back into the Final Cut Events folder, re-open FCP X, and there you have it.
Use this exact same approach for projects.
Regarding backup, you can manually backup your events/projects, however I only do this if the edit is completely finished and exists in my Final Cut Pro HIDE folders. All I then do is copy and paste to a backup HD.
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Why does my screen turn black when I play iTunes while working on iPhoto?
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It would be nice if I could solve this problem once and for all.
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JanThat was easy. Thanks. Jan
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After not working on a project for a while, my renders disappear
I've been working on a project on and off for a couple months. And this is the 2nd time now that I've left the project for a few weeks. When I come back to it, all my rendered footage is gone.
I'm importing 720p HD footage (.mov) so I need to render everything in order for it to play smoothly in the project. A few small bits of render to remain, such as titles.
This is probably something simple. But could someone clarify what's going on, and if theres something I can do to prevent this.
ThanksWell I wanted to chalk this up to some kind of mistake on my part (which it probably is). But the renders are definitely disappearing, perhaps not on there own, but without my knowingly doing so.
Here's my guess: my project data gets stored in the default My Documents location of a Windows XP x64 installation. But I have a dualboot with GNU/Linux. While I don't normally use the NTFS partition where the premiere project data is stored, sometimes it does get mounted. After working on a project a couple weeks ago, I just came back to it, only to find that the entire render bar above the timeline is red instead of the green that I had left it when I last worked on the project.
Additionally the directories titled 'Adobe Premiere Pro Preview Files' and 'Media Cache Files' both have a subdirectory with files specific to my project, and those subdirectories are still full of the render data.
So first off, regardless of what may be causing this problem, is there anyway to force Premiere to look at a certain location to re-find the render files?
Second, would my hypothesis of Linux mounting the parition where the Premiere data is saved make sense why the renders 'disappear'? Any other ideas what might be causing this?
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Project file disappeared while working!!!!
Hello, l work on a double dual core 3ghz intel mac, 8 gig of ram and a load of disk space (2 tera). Good machine. I've been editing on a network drive (full of space and very quick, far enough for sp DV, wich is the format I'm on). Now everything is working fine, no problem of anykind, files where captured on a local drive so no problem with a 2 gig file limitation. So all cool... but then suddenly while working, I choose to save my project (save) and the system tells me "file error". Impossible to save on the original location on the network. When I browse to the folder where the project is, the file has disappeared... Now the funny part comes: if I look at the same folder on an other machine, either mac or
PC, I can definitely see the file!! It's there (good to know it's the old version, before the save and error message, so it wasn't saved at all when the problem occured). It's there but on the machine from wich I had the problem it isn't!!!! It's the second time this arrises, first time I thought "that's odd", but now it seems to me as a major issue. Hopefully when the problem came, after the "file error" message I could still save the project in another location, so I didn't loose any work - if this happens to you.
Did anyone experience this very annoying and worrying situation? Is there a solution?
Many thanks!
Raphaël Grana
PS almost forgot: if I disconnect the network drive and then reconnect it, the file is available again...Hello
I think I am in the middle of a similar problem and I am not on a network. This was also going aon a few months ago.
I would save the project and it wouldn't show up in the finder (even though I was sitting there using and working the project) or I would try to save and I would get a warning such as Unknonw file or general error.. So I would save a new version which would be fine, then that wouldn't save, and so on.... And yes if I closed the finder window and reopened it the file I saved would sometimes appear. I really couldn't figure it out. It happened on a few projects but I couldn't see any rhyme or reason.
Eventually I reloaded FCP and all the updates again. Everything was going fine. Until last night. First I couldn't save (got the unknown file message) and then.... (arround the same time) One of my Hard drives lost all but one locked (Indesign) file!!! 148GB of media (FCP,quciktime,renders, etc) files, no warning! poof! gone! The drive was still there and passed all verification and didn't need any repair (using disc utility), all the info was gone! And I never touched it! Interestingly, I don't believe the project I was working on at the time had much to do with the Drive that lost everything. But the project I opened up just after the save problem occured did. When it opened with all of it's media "offline" (which had definitely been there earlier in the day)I discovered the disc issue.
OK, don't know if that helps, yes I've experienced similar but don't have the answer, yet.
Good Luck!
Len
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IMovie quits while copying projects and events to an external HD. Any ideas?
Here is my problem: i was running out of disk space and wanted to move my projects and events to a new, external WD hard drive. I followed to normal procedure and moved the projects within iMovie 11 to the new (meanwhile connected and displayed) WD drive. I selected to copy both, projects and events to this drive and iMovie started copying. After a while the prog crashed. Does anyone have an idea what else I can do? Is this a bug of iMovie?
I found the solution and just want to share with you...
1. I closed iMovie
2. I renamed my existing root folder projects and events by adding a '_' at the beginning of the folder name.
3. I copied all my content (projects and events) within the finder and not as normally recommended within iMovie from the internal to the new external hard drive.
4. When starting iMovie again the newly copied folder are recognized and it takes a while (depending of the amount of clips and projects) until iMovie is available after this start.
5. The events and projects are now shown in the new external harddrive and all files are accesible. Also all clips from the events are correctly linked in the projects.
I have tried this way since the normal decribed routine did not work on my iMac (iMovie crashed every time).
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