White balance camera raw

When I open a raw image in camera raw, the white balance sliders are alread at their maximum, making it impossible to improve the image. Teh default white balance window appears as "as shot".

Try clicking on the pull-down menu to the right of “As Shot” and then choose another WB type or choose custom.

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Does Aperture always apply white balance to RAW files?

Hi Aperture users,
I have been an Aperture user for many years. Aperture handles the white balance of my Canon XTi RAW files just as I want it to: it interprets the RAW data by applying the white balance selected at the time of the photo. I.e., when Aperture decodes the RAW file, it makes it look more-or-less like the in-camera JPG with respect to the white balance.
However, in the past several months, many well-known contributors of this forum have stated "RAW is RAW -- Aperture will not apply any camera settings." This statement was made in response to many "novice" questions about why a RAW photo in Aperture did not look anything like the JPG from the camera.
So, my questions:
Does anyone have a camera to whose RAW files Aperture does not apply in-camera white balance settings?
Does everyone else agree that this exception to "RAW is RAW" is acceptable?
thanks,
nathan

Hi Nathan -- I was hoping someone much more informed than me would weigh in with some engineering truth. All I got on offer is the thin gruel of observation.
Mr Endo wrote:
So, my questions:
Does anyone have a camera to whose RAW files Aperture does not apply in-camera white balance settings?
Does everyone else agree that this exception to "RAW is RAW" is acceptable?
1. I don't. RAW is sensor data. Most cameras record the White Balance camera setting as a metadata tag attached to the RAW data (The WB has no effect at all on the captured data.) Most RAW converters use this setting as the default WB. Some RAW converters perform "colorimetric interpretation" -- they basically compare the data captured to a generic color space and assign a WB. (This is, I assume, the same thing a camera set to "Auto WB" does. My camera is superb at assigning a WB for any mixed scene; it's repeatably bad, though, whenever the actual scene is truly colored (meaning "away from average").) In both cases -- 1. using the attached-to-the-RAW-data WB, and 2. analyzing the captured data to intelligently predict the WB -- a WB is applied to the RAW data. It has to be, in order to produce an image from the data.
2. The problem here isn't that this is an exception -- it's that different people mean different things when they say "RAW". The RAW data is RAW data. As above, the WB setting has no effect on it. But the image derived from the data -- any image produced from the data -- much have a WB set (and, for human use, a tone-curve applied). Some people mistaken think that RAW is an image format, or that the image produced by the RAW converter is a "RAW" image. It is not. RAW data must be converted to an image format in order to be displayed as an image. The conversion must apply a WB.
I have found it useful (though perhaps mistaken) to conceive of my data-gathering to picture-making as following these steps:
. Capture a pattern of light. This is just data.
. Convert the data to an image. RAW conversion done by Aperture. (NB: the settings for this can be changed.)
. Adjust the image to my artistic satisfaction
. Convert the adjusted image to an image format file
. Publish the image-format file in one or two now standard forms: to be viewed on a computer monitor, or as a print.
I mention only because at some point I consciously added the "Convert data to image" step in order to better grasp the process. RAW data is RAW data -- but that step identifies an intermediate that many overlook. At that step the information recorded along with the RAW data and stored in the RAW file is applied to the RAW data.
To me, "RAW is RAW" is correct. "Aperture will not apply any camera settings," is wrong.
I am happy for any clarifications or corrections.

Batch processing of white balance with RAW photo's in v.5

Hi,
I have the plugin for RAW to use with Photoshop Elements 5.0 but there doesn't seem to be a way to correct a whole group of photos in raw for white balance or some other correction in a batch. Maybe I'm missing something or maybe this can't be done in Elements.

Elements doesn't have the ability to Batch Process RAW files like you want.
You could make a Batch Conversion to JPEGS, PSD or TIF but each image gets the same default adjustments. I think you could save a new default with your adjustments and then this would get applied in the process. You'd need to remember to go back the Camera Defaults afterwards.
The only other thing available is the Previous Conversion feature but this still means processing the images one by one.
Colin

?? Info readings for white balance in Raw Bridge ??

I'm running CS2 9.0.2 on a G5 iMac and I'm having an annoying but intermittent problem with the information palette shown in the top right hand corner of the Camera Raw window when you open Raws in Bridge. Often when I try to do a white balance, if I'm just trying to roll the pointer over the gray scale to get readings, the info numbers will flash quickly instead of maintaining and updating as you move the mouse.
The values are not blown out or underexposed but you simply cannot read the values in the palette. You have to click on your medium gray, etc... before you can read the numbers on the palette.
Is anyone else having this problem? Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix it?
Thanks.

See the response to my message from Jeff Schewe under the topic "ACR 4: RGB measurement values show --- instead of values." Opening from Photoshop (instead of Bridge) seems to fix the problem (at least for me). You might try that. It's not as convenient as opening from Bridge, but the info then displays correctly in ACR.
--Rich

Adding White Balance To Raw Images

Does anyone know how to add a custom white balance to a raw image using Photoshop Elements 2?
Thanks,
John

The only way to work with RAW in PE 2 is if someone created a plug-in specifically for your camera's RAW files. For instance, for my Minolta RAW files, I used Dalibor's .MRW plug-in for PE 2. But there's nothing built-in in PE 2 that understands RAW. ACR appeared with PE 3.

White balance and RAW

I have been importing RAW files from my Canon S70 for a while, and everything has worked very well. Recently, however, imported RAW files are showing up with the incorrect white balance in iPhoto (different from the one they were taken with on the camera). If I open the same RAW file in any other editor the correct white balance is displayed. Does anyone know how I might fix this?
The weird part is that it didn't used to do this--iPhoto used to display all my RAW files w/ the white balance they were taken with. It was nice because I could just export JPGs directly. Now, however, I have to open them up in another editor and export so they have the correct WB.
Any help would be great, thanks.

Heya Black eyes,
I've never heard of this one before except in an instance where the person was using Photoshop CS to edit the files right after importing them into iPhoto (Photoshop was adding its own colorprofile and throwing off poor iphoto).
Consider removing ~/library/caches, and ~/library/preferences/com.apple.iphoto.plist, and ~/pictures/iphotolibrary/albumdata.xml to the trash.
Restart your computer.
Test iPhoto - does the issue persist?
If so then try creating a new iphoto library by launching iphoto with the option key.
Import from your camera to there.
If it works then your original iphoto library needs to be rebuilt following kbase 107947 and using all 4 options.
If not then I would make sure that the color sync profiles on your system as a whole have not been changed.
Hope that helps!
Cheers!

IP4 white balance camera app.

Okay, the white balance issue is getting pretty irritating, especially when I email photos or video directly from my phone. Rarely did I color correct the images on my original iPhone, seems like every image needs to be fix on my IP4.
Has anyone found a camera app. that will do color correction or adjust the white balance for photos and videos?
Thanks,

I use photogene. It works perfectly.

Lightroom seems to auto white balance on RAW files

Hi, I started using Canon RAW files and noted that in Lightroom, it will render a preview and change the original photo colour etc. Is this normal and how to I switch this auto rendering off?
For JPG, it doesn't seems to do that...
Thanks!

When you import, one of the options is "Develop Settings" (the Import Photos dialogue box, below the list of pictures it's going to import, in an area labelled "Information to Apply"). Unless you have something other than "None", then I don't think it alters the WB, though I could be wrong. Of course, if you apply a Develop Setting then all bets are off - the preset could do anything.
As for Auto Tone, go to Edit menu, Preferences, Presets tab, and check (or not, as you prefer) the Apply auto tone adjustments option. But that shouldn't alter white balance or colour.

My images are going from from camera raw to totally white in Photoshop CS6, I am using a Mac computer.

I am using Photoshop CS6 and my images are opening up totally white from camera raw into photoshop.
I am using a Mac. Just recently switched from PC to raw, and never had this problem.

Is everything up to date?

Problem transferring white balance Exif info from iPhoto to Aperture

I originally posted this question on the Aperture discussions page, but it was suggested to me that maybe I should try asking it on the iPhoto page as well.
I want to transfer my iPhoto library over to Aperture, but am reluctant to do so until I have familiarised myself with the new program. (I have over 23,000 photos in iPhoto.)
As a start, I have imported a few of my recent photos from iPhoto so that I can find my way around Aperture. One thing puzzles me. I can see the white balance information for each photo in iPhoto but the white balance field is greyed out in the Aperture metadata, and there is no 'cloud' or 'sun' picture at the top right of the Info panel, even though the white balance field is ticked in the Metadata Fields panels for Exif Info and Camera Info. I really need to know which camera setting I used for each photo to help me learn how to take better photos, but as far as I can see the information is not available to me anywhere in Aperture.
I have performed Aperture Library First Aid (repaired permissions and database, and rebuilt database) but the problem still exists. At the suggestion of someone on the Aperture page I have also created a new Aperture library and then imported some original photos from iPhoto which I exported to the desktop and then into the new Aperture library. I had the same problem, with no white balance information showing. That's when I was advised to try the iPhoto discussions page as well!
Does anyone have any ideas for me please?

Well, Terence, it duly showed up the white balance data when I shot a Raw photo. But I don't understand why Aperture recognises white balance for Raw but won't show it for Jpegs, whereas iPhoto recognises both.

White Balance Setting Errors - HELP!

I am having a problem with Aperture and wanted to find if anyone else has noticed this since the update to 3.1.
I imported a batch of photos (about 75 RAW 25 JPEG) and noticed that the white balance was the same for every picture. Odd since my Nikon camera is set to Auto White Balance and RAW and the JPEG photos from my Sony should show 5000/0. Everything was showing the same value, which was something like 4689/-5.
I discovered that Aperture is only showing me the setting for the first photo I select after opening the program. Unless I deselect the photo by clicking somewhere on the background, that photo's setting will show for all photos that have not been locked into a setting by editing. After deselecting, I can then click on a different photo and get the correct white balance numbers.
This causes a very annoying problem - I can't start editing a photo after directly clicking on it or moving to it with the arrow keys because the white balance starting point will be from a previous photo's setting, so I am moving the sliders from the wrong starting point. Having to deselect and reselect between every photo is very irritating.
I've restarted my computer, repaired Aperture's permissions, and repaired the database, but nothing fixes the problem. It's likely a bug that needs an update to be fixed (I submitted a bug report) but I'm open to suggestions.
Anyone else having a similar problem since updating?

Others have reported simialr problems.
See:
[White Balance Glitch|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12521251&#12521251]

Custom White Balance

Hi
I often shoot using 'custom white balances' in raw on my canon 5d. Please can someone explain what aperture does with the custom white balance info - is it applied to the raw image when the image is imported?
Other Raw processors allow you to specifically to select whether to use the custom WB or a preset but I can find this option in Aperture
Help please
thanks
Steve

"When you open a RAW file in Aperture, The first thing it does is calculate the color of every Pixel in your image. It uses the temperature and tint settings that you ( or your camera) as image Metadata to calibrate its settings for the color of the loght you were shooting under. When you change these settings, you do nothing more than changing the calibration reference Apoerture uses for its calculations."
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Jeff

Bug Fix for White Balance Issue (When ?)

Dear Apple:
When can users expect a patch for the bug that "crept" into Aperture late in the development cycle that seriously effects the white balance tool?
This bug is obviously a major concern and issue for most professional-level photographers; and, quite frankly, prevents Aperture from being used in a professional capacity with regard to RAW decoding.
Cheers

Excuse me, John:
But, quite frankly I don't think you are in any position to tell the users of this form how they should feel. Most users, who happen to be high-end prosumers or professionals such as myself, have paid a great deal of money on a piece of software that was supposed to live up to certain, basic expectations. Unfortunately, that software did not. As such it cannot be used in a professional environment.
Subsequently, an update was provided to address all the concerns that users expressed. Unfortunately, that update created a major issue with regard to the white balance of RAW images. Yet again, this expensive piece of software is nearly useless in a professional environment.
Let me ask you this: "if you were a gardner and paid several hundred dollars for a lawn mower, only to discover that it cut your clients' grass unevenly, would you continue to use it? Would you continue to be patient after taking it into the repair shop only to have it still screw up your lawns? Would you not be on the phone with the repair shop constantly until it was fixed?"
Unfortunately, Aperture is a good idea that has a flawed implementation and that NEEDS to be addressed! So, I will continue to ask Joe and Steve and the others at Apple when will this piece of software actually live up to the expectations set forth by the company that produced it!

White Balance in Camera raw

Every time I open an image from Bridge in CS6, into camera raw the white balance always defaults to fluorescent. How can I change default opening to read as"shot as"?

Hi there! Because the forum you originally posted in is for beginners trying to learn the basics of Photoshop, I moved your question to the Camera Raw forum, where you'll get more specialized help.

Camera Raw crashes with use of white balance eye dropper.

Using PS CC2014.2.1
Since this update, whenever I use the white balance eyedropper in Camera Raw, if placed over an over exposed region, instead of the dialogue box popping up to warn that the area is too bright, the system just freezes. Have to launch task manager and close PS.
If eyedropper is placed on non-over exposed (not clipped) area, it seems alright. Anyone else experiencing this?

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