White Balance seems to shift

Mark 111 changes white balance for no reason at all, on the same pic

I am not familiar with your particular camera, but if your camera has WB settings and/or shoots RAW:
I assume you are set to auto white balance? If you want a bit more consistency, pick a white balance that matches your location (shade, sun, cloudy, fluorescent, etc.).
Also shoot RAW instead of, or in addition to, JPEG. You have so much more ability to correct WB in RAW there's just no comparison.
Also shoot
Scott
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White Balance seems off

Sometimes when i "wake up" my computer it seems like my white balance is a little off. My whites don't seem pure white and actually seem a little bluish. Does any one know what might be going on here or are my eyes just wigging out?

I've noticed that a couple of times myself but it's a) not consistent and b) seems to go away within a few seconds/minute or so ...
I'd assumed it was just the display 'warming up' or something (but then I'm usually doing this early in the morning with my first cup of coffee so I'm not 100% awake yet anyway )

White balance off

I have the Mac Book with the pre-installed iSight. It worked great yesterday, but today the camera's white balance seems way off because it is make the picture all blue (as in, there is not red, green, white, black components). Any thoughts?
Thanks for your help!
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HI RG214,
Welcome to the Apple Discussions
Does this help ?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302520
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I am on a MAC OSX 10.9.5, and using LR 5.7. I have lost the "Develop" Basic Panel (white balance & color saturation). How do I get it back? Every thing else seems to be in place.

I am on a MAC OSX 10.9.5, and using LR 5.7. I have lost the "Develop" Basic Panel (white balance & color saturation). Every thing else seems to be in place. How do I get it back?

This is one of the most commonly asked questions in this forum. See this.

White balance shifting when importing raw files

When I import my raw files from my 5D mark 2 my white balance is set to 5200K, when in Lightroom it shifts to 4850K? Any body know why?

If there are no import presets being applied from the import pane, there's one other way this could be happening. If you're taking advantage of the ability to adjust LR's default import presets (NOT the same as what user web-weaver is talking about which is configured through the import panel) and you accidentally captured a setting other than "as shot" while making the changes, then this is likely your culprite.
This feature is fantastic for automatically applying ISO-specific NR to each file on import, but it can also catch other settings you may not have intended while configuring it. Go back to the files you originally used to set the defaults for each individual ISO, reset the WB to "as shot," and set defaults again. The menu option for this only appears in the develop module. Menu: Develop -> Set Default Settings...
You can also choose to wipe out all previously configured defaults by going to your preferences window, then Presets tab. Look for the "Reset all default Develop settings" button.
Hope this helps you or anyone else who comes along.

HELP White Balance Tint Shift

My white balance brick produces a severe color shift. This just started yesterday after the ProApp 5.1 update. When I make an adjustment in the white balance brick the tint slider is all the way to the right (magenta) and shows a slight green tint. When I set the tint to 0 everything goes green. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with no success. I'm just about at my last try with this program. I love everything about AP3 but I don't think I can take much more of all the issues. If anyone can offer some support I would greatly appreciate it.

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Lightroom seems to auto white balance on RAW files

Hi, I started using Canon RAW files and noted that in Lightroom, it will render a preview and change the original photo colour etc. Is this normal and how to I switch this auto rendering off?
For JPG, it doesn't seems to do that...
Thanks!

When you import, one of the options is "Develop Settings" (the Import Photos dialogue box, below the list of pictures it's going to import, in an area labelled "Information to Apply"). Unless you have something other than "None", then I don't think it alters the WB, though I could be wrong. Of course, if you apply a Develop Setting then all bets are off - the preset could do anything.
As for Auto Tone, go to Edit menu, Preferences, Presets tab, and check (or not, as you prefer) the Apply auto tone adjustments option. But that shouldn't alter white balance or colour.

White Balance Shift 3200 to 5600

Hallo,
We have material from one shooting done with three Panasonic DVX100AE, Unfortunatly, two cameras were set to 5600, on camera to 3200 white balance. Is there a way to converte the whole material from the "3200 camera" to 5600 ? Using the "try and error methode" with 3colour correction has not given satiesfying results yet. I´m wondering if there are any standard values known for that purpose that I could just write in the numberfields in 3cc ? Or is there a plug in available, that could do the job ?
Regards, Michael Lohrengel, Berlin, Germany

Michael:
This link will show you a tutorial about Using Match Hue in FCP 5 , using the 3CC filter.
I think you can try this workflow to match both footages.

White Balance Presets: What am I MISSING?

Perhaps like me, you spend a lot of time tweaking pictures for your family.
One of the quickest ways to do this, besides cropping, is to properly set the white balance.
When working with RAW files there are 7 or 8 presets (such as tungsten, cloudy, etc), but when working with JPEG there are only three (as shot, auto, custom).
Now, when working in RAW, I am working with my professional images and I am unlikely to be using ANY presets. Will happily spend a lot of time searching for that perfect neutral grey.
However, when working with JPEGs, I am generally trying to put together a vacation slide slow, or tweaking my sister's new house pictures, or throwing together a talk - where the content is more important than the images. In short, am trying to work QUICKLY with acceptable, but not optimal, results. I would GLADLY use presets ... but they are not there.
Why are they present in, what to me, seems the situation in which they are least likely to be used, and absent when they would be of the most value?
I mean really, are you going to shoot in RAW and then click 'AUTO' anything??

I suppose this is right, that setting the WB in camera may result in some data being discarded? I understand that RAW, as indicated by its name, is simply a raw dataset of what the sensors recorded: it has no WP, exposure, or anything else.
Thinking about it in response to the comments, i realize that i'm not really sure what setting the WB does - beyond telling the camera what SHOULD be white, given X as the light-source.
I do intuit what it does, and which way to shift the color temperature to achieve my goal, but i really do not know what setting the WB does to the data as a whole, and if, as commenters have implied, some of it is lost by picking a WP.
Wikipedia explains that WB is "...ideally described as a spectral power distribution, that is, by giving the amount of power per unit wavelength at each wavelength of the visible spectrum." In a sense this helps me to understand.
So i guess that I can imagine setting the WB as shifting the spectral power distribution about a given point.
But, all the above being true, given that the LR-JPEG 'auto' can often come fairly close to fixing the color balance, I still find myself wondering why there would not be presets for other color temperature/frequency spectrums which would be able to come even closer, and which could be available on JPEG images where 'close enough is good enough'.
Of course, I also wonder why LR 'Develop' does not have an auto-rotate function, why I keep finding myself going back to 'Library' to rotate yet another image that was a bit too 'qui se veut artistique' to tell up from down on on the thumbnail ...

LR4 beta white balance on cropped images

I'm not sure if this has been discussed, I could not find a post with silimar issues.
LR4 Beta 64 on WinVista : Nex 5N raw files
WB picker on a cropped image seems to give variable (and wrong) results
I wanted to tweak WB an image that I'd previously cropped and made some adjustments to....WB was already close, the picker on a white fishing bouy was at ~90/88/91. Clicking the picker on bouy gave a strong red shift, about +5 on the red.
1st time I did it I thought I'd jerked the mouse somewhere, tried it again.. and again with similar results. Repeated several time.
I opened LR3 and had no problems with the same image.
I reopened LR4B and got the same problem again.
Undid the crop and the WB adjustment was fine.
I went back to LR3 and cropepd the same image the same way and WB was fine.
Went back to Lr4B and again, WB was off.
I reset the image so that it had no other adjustments. WB was OK but again when I cropped it it was off.
Opened another image and did the same thing. ie full image WB was OK, cropped I got a +5 or so shift, although this time in blue.
Tried it with a different crop and got a -15 on red.
WB zoom level was at max
Mike

Eric,
Take just about any photo and crop so all the sides are moved toward the middle. It isn't hard to find a point on the image where the white balance dropper looks like it's over a near-grey(and its numbers say near-grey), but when you click, the picture gets an extreme colour cast. And the point where you click doesn't go grey, either, but moves much farther from grey.
Here's the crop:
Here's what happens when the eyedropper is over the almost-grey snow:
Note what's happening in the Navigator preview. It's as if the eyedropper were over the yellow jacket, but the numbers on the loupe show grey.
Hal

ACR 3.7 White Balance Problem

I have just installed Photoshop Lightbox 1.0 on my Windows (XP SP2) PC. After importing a few hundred adjusted DNG files into this software, I noticed that many of the images had severe (thankfully easily spotted) pinkish colour casts indicating a serious white point shift. Viewing the same images in Bridge using ACR 3.X (3.2?) revealed no problems. Now I am a bit confused here. Lightbox claims to use ACR 3.7, which is supposed to be a shared resource with Photoshop. However my version of Photoshop CS2 indicated it was using an earlier version. Anyway, I then upgraded my ACR plugin to v3.7 and low and behold the same problem appeared in Bridge / ACR 3.7.
The problem does not affect all images. It seems, though I am not sure, that it is only those images where the white balance had been set to a custom value that are affected. Other settings: exposure, contrast etc, seem to be unaffected. It is possible to fix the problem in the Bridge + Photoshop + ACR 3.7 environment using the previously saved "fixed" images as references. However the problem remains in Lightroom, presumably because the RAW adjustments are stored separately, and is not so easily fixed, as it does not seem to be possible to have two different images side by side while carrying out fine white-point adjustments.
Anyway, to cut to the chase, I am quite furious that this could have happened at all, as it raises serious questions about the backward compatibility of the software and/or the ability of RAW (DNG) files to preserve adjustment information securely against changes in the software environment. What has occurred should be impossible, but evidently is not. Maybe these digital negatives are not so safe after all.
Anybody got any idea what went wrong and how to fix it? Is there a way to reset Lightroom to the externally applied RAW adjustments?

Actually the product I am talking about is ACR 3.7, which is common to Photoshop CS2, Bridge and Lightroom. The Read Me! notes accompanying my installation of Lightroom clearly states that it uses ACR 3.7 (and that upgrading ACR 3.7 in Photoshop would be necessary to ensure consistency, which I have done). The reference to Lightroom was important, as unlike the Photoshop ACR, in my setup, Lightroom does not store the adjustment settings in sidecar XMP files, or, in the case of DNG files, within the files themselves. The problem manifested itself inside Lightroom first, and then, only after I upgraded Photoshop to ACR 3.7, did the problem occur within Bridge and Photoshop. This clearly demonstrates that the problem is ACR 3.7, and not some feature of Lightroom. [It might help therefore, if, in future, you forgot I mentioned Lightroom.]
To answer your next question, the DNG files were created in my camera (Pentax K10D firmware v1.0 & v1.1). ACR defaults are as out of the box except that sharpening is set to be applied in preview only. Data are "written to XMP" rather than a database.
The auto settings may have changed. However, the fault, when it occurs, is a major, and very obvious, shift of white point, not the sort of thing one would expect from a tweaking of the default/auto settings. Anyway it is only adjusted whitepoint settings, not auto ones, that have changed.
I cannot be sure that the problem is specific to DNG, though I suspect it probably is. My older PEF (Pentax RAW) files are unaffected.
I do not think it is acceptable that changes to software should cause changes to the rendering of an image, particularly where that rendering may have been created by careful adjustment. This is a fundamental issue of backward compatibility.

New to RAW, White balance question

I've been using Lightroom for years, but with my camera outputting JPG images only. I've now started working with RAW (NEF) files from my D90 recently, and am having newbie's difficulties.
LR 2.6, Mac OSX 10.5.8, iMac 24" 2.8GHz
The problem that brings me here is that I just did a shoot without setting a white balance. Shot JPG & NEF, and I see that Lightroom is extrapolating the AWB values the camera came up with onto the NEF files "As Shot". For a series of similar images I have found a white balance that seems to work. I set that on my chosen image, shift-select the rest, and attempt to SYNC white balance to the other images.
It doesn't take. WB's remain "As Shot" for the other images, and all over the place, following the camera. Expanding the items synced to include "Treatment (Color)" doesn't help.
How can I "Sync" white balance with NEF files, please?
Many thanks in advance.

So Lightroom is essentially applying an "Auto WB" on its own when displaying images "As Shot"?
ON EDIT: I ask this because every image has a different, individual "As Shot" WB when first seen in Lightroom.
Hardly seems "As Shot" if LR is going in and altering the WB right off the bat.
MethodPhoto wrote:
The white balance information that Nikon knows about is not information that Lightroom uses.
Camera Raw and Lightroom use Adobe's method of profiling the camera which is different from Nikon's. So you won't get an exact match, however Adobe provide a set of profiles which are intended to match as closely as possible the Camera looks - these are in Develop > Camera Calibration
If you find there are a certain set of adjustments that you repeatedly make then save them as a Preset and you can apply them to a batch of images or on import. (These can include White Balance settings and Calibrations and Profiles).

White Balance Metadata not showing in Adobe Bridge CS6

Hi there, I am running Bridge CS6 on a Mac, and use Canon 5D and 5DMark 111 cameras. I have an issue with Bridge which I can not seem to figure out. Whether I shoot Raw or JPG and I am trying to do some testing for white balance, once I open the images in Bridge, in the little icon panel just below the folders/favourites panel etc I can see the f stop info, speed, metering , ISO etc, but the only icons I get for WB are if use auto - then I see AUTO. But when I do a manual WB like 'cloudy', 'tungsten', or 'shade' etc all I get are the symbols for 'Custom" or "Manual". How do I get the actual symbols for what type of WB i've chosen to show up?
I have purged the Cache - both in the individual folder and the overall Cache in preferences. I have checked that all the boxes are ticked in the preferences panel for the Metadata. So not sure what else to do.
Cheers D

Ok thanks for that, at least I wont be chasing my tail.
I did install the DNG converter 8.3 but I still NEF files as a NEF icon. Any clues to what I may not be doing right there?

Can you remove the camera white balance setting in Aperture

I have a Canon 7D and use Aperture for processing and storing my images.
With the Canon I shoot both video and still and frequently adjust the white balance in the camera. I make a frequent mistake in leaving the wrong white balance setting on - eg when taking video indoors in the evening I set the white balance to indoors (the Canon seems poor at white balance decision making on video) and then I forget I'm not using auto white balance and switch to taking a photo with flash. The result is a horrible blue photo - which if I don't spot the problem at the time seems very hard to correct afterwards.
I use the Aperture white balance adjustments frequently but unless there is a patch or white or grey I an use the dropper on, I find this particular situation seems to be right off the scale of what I can fix in Aperture. I end up with sliders at the extremes of the scales and no intuitive sense of what numbers to type in manually to try and get realistic colour - so I often end up discarding these photos even if the shot itself is something I'd like to use.
So my question is given I'm importing RAW, is there a way to show the phoo without the (wrong) white balance setting I applied in the camera, to let me choose white balance from scratch?
Or if not, do you have any advice about how to adjust from this very bluey unrealistic colour of image?

Kirkby - thanks for the quick reply.
Didn't know you could drag inside a value field - that's helpful.
But being able to get different numbers on the slider isn't the root of my problem.
In a specific example I have two photos - one taken with white balance set to flash and the photo was with flash, where after a bit of tweaking to get the colour I want the temp slider is at 5000K (and tint 0). The second photo has my shooting error with interior lighting white balance but taken with flash. The two shots were taken from almost the same point of the same view (but different people in frame). The shot with the white balance error comes off camera horribly blue coloured. I can fiddle with the two sliders - I take temperature to 20000K and tint to 40 to do the best with it I can, and with those settings one of the two faces is approaching flesh colour but the wall behind the subjects (which is a light blue in reality) is now appearing light yellow in places. I just can't get a good looking colour effect no matter ow extreme the slider settings.
I may have phrased my question badly - as I totally agree you can't show a raw without a colour setting - so maybe I'm better asking to be able to use a different colour setting on the raw data rather than having to start with adjustments on top of my white balance mistake.
Given the two shots were in the same place against the same background and the same lighting (both with flash) it seems to me I ought to be able to get a similar colour effect on both and I just can't. To illustrate here are the two photos (the one on the left was shot with flash wb and in Aperture I'm viewing it with 5000K and 0 tint, the one on the right was shot with indoor wb and in Aperture I'm viewing it with 20000K and 40 tint and it looks terrible!)
https://www.box.com/shared/qle3t6ovyhrd1egez3vc

White Balance Correction

Hi all,
This might be a question which is too "simple" for Aperture but here goes...
I am used to using Adobe or Nikon products to edit my RAW images, in those apps you could change white balance as if you were in camera (ie: daylight, shade, flash etc...). In Aperture it seems the only way I can adjust white balance is to click somewhere in the image which is white, is this correct?
Appreciate it.
MBP 15'' 2.16 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

I think it what would put Aperture in a
better position would be to use the same system as
the competition
How can Aperture surpass the competition by copying them? The current system is workable for saving presets. I am looking for something much better out of Apple in the next revision of Aperture than just 'copying' the competition.
Aperture is innovative and ground-breaking software in many areas. We will have to wait a bit longer for them to fill in some weaker spots in a application.

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