White Balance Setting Errors - HELP!

I am having a problem with Aperture and wanted to find if anyone else has noticed this since the update to 3.1.
I imported a batch of photos (about 75 RAW 25 JPEG) and noticed that the white balance was the same for every picture. Odd since my Nikon camera is set to Auto White Balance and RAW and the JPEG photos from my Sony should show 5000/0. Everything was showing the same value, which was something like 4689/-5.
I discovered that Aperture is only showing me the setting for the first photo I select after opening the program. Unless I deselect the photo by clicking somewhere on the background, that photo's setting will show for all photos that have not been locked into a setting by editing. After deselecting, I can then click on a different photo and get the correct white balance numbers.
This causes a very annoying problem - I can't start editing a photo after directly clicking on it or moving to it with the arrow keys because the white balance starting point will be from a previous photo's setting, so I am moving the sliders from the wrong starting point. Having to deselect and reselect between every photo is very irritating.
I've restarted my computer, repaired Aperture's permissions, and repaired the database, but nothing fixes the problem. It's likely a bug that needs an update to be fixed (I submitted a bug report) but I'm open to suggestions.
Anyone else having a similar problem since updating?

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Didn't know you could drag inside a value field - that's helpful.
But being able to get different numbers on the slider isn't the root of my problem.
In a specific example I have two photos - one taken with white balance set to flash and the photo was with flash, where after a bit of tweaking to get the colour I want the temp slider is at 5000K (and tint 0). The second photo has my shooting error with interior lighting white balance but taken with flash. The two shots were taken from almost the same point of the same view (but different people in frame). The shot with the white balance error comes off camera horribly blue coloured. I can fiddle with the two sliders - I take temperature to 20000K and tint to 40 to do the best with it I can, and with those settings one of the two faces is approaching flesh colour but the wall behind the subjects (which is a light blue in reality) is now appearing light yellow in places. I just can't get a good looking colour effect no matter ow extreme the slider settings.
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