White Balance Shift 3200 to 5600

Hallo,
We have material from one shooting done with three Panasonic DVX100AE, Unfortunatly, two cameras were set to 5600, on camera to 3200 white balance. Is there a way to converte the whole material from the "3200 camera" to 5600 ? Using the "try and error methode" with 3colour correction has not given satiesfying results yet. I´m wondering if there are any standard values known for that purpose that I could just write in the numberfields in 3cc ? Or is there a plug in available, that could do the job ?
Regards, Michael Lohrengel, Berlin, Germany

Michael:
This link will show you a tutorial about Using Match Hue in FCP 5 , using the 3CC filter.
I think you can try this workflow to match both footages.

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