White balance temp and tint readings on hub

Maybe I'm missing something. Aperture does not seem to show actual color temp or tint of specific photos on the adjustnment hub. Reads 0 tint and 5,000 k. Is there an option to activate the hub to display tint or temp similar to ACR?
Thanks,
Robert
www.robertholland.com

Maybe I'm missing something. Aperture does not seem
to show actual color temp or tint of specific photos
on the adjustnment hub. Reads 0 tint and 5,000 k. Is
there an option to activate the hub to display tint
or temp similar to ACR?
I have not found a way to view that - basically Aperture always shows "as-shot".

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Hello Guys,
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Yes, we will add a setting for white balance in an upcoming version of the phones software planned for the beginning of next year (see my response here: http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z1/Xperia-Z1-C6903-Display-Issue-Yellow-Hue-Tint/td-p/391521/pa...).
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