White thumbnails in Library module (CC 2015)

hi, with the new version of Lightroom (CC 2015) I've got a very annoying problem: some miniature in the library module is totaly white, the picture doesn't exist for LR, but the picture really exist in their original folder. someone can give me some help? Thanks
Maurizio

Someone on another thread suggested this work around.
"Instead of exporting from your "Develop" module, try exporting from the "Library" module. I just tried this and it worked with no issues."
Something to try anyways....
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Ian Lyons wrote:
The behaviour after previews have been around for a while (i.e. previews for unedited images) is not normal. There have been a few other reports of similar behaviour, but no real clues as to why it happens.
Yes - this is my problem. Previews should still be valid, and "Library > Previews > Render 1:1 Previews" says the images are still valid, but then Loupe rebuilds them anyways.
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Ian Lyons wrote:
If everything was working correctly, the setting for discard shouldn't have any effect on whether the previews go stale or not. ...
My understanding is that if everything were working as intended, the "setting for discard" that I was referring to (Edit > Catalog Settings > File Handling > "Automatically Discard 1:1 Previews") should be the sole determinant of whether 1:1 previews must be rebuilt for images with unmodified settings.
For example, if I import an image and render a 1:1 preview, and if I set the "Auto Discard 1:1" setting to "30 Days", and if I make no changes to the image's settings, then I would expect that the image should render quickly (under 1/2 second) at 1:1 zoom in Loupe view for the next 30 days. On the 31st day, I would expect the image to take longer to load as a new 1:1 preview was rendered and stored, and then I would expect this new preview to be retained for another 30 days.
I would furthermore expect that the 30-day counter would be reset every time the image was re-rendered (i.e. if I go into Develop and change something).
To a certain extent, this is functioning correctly on my system. When I go to one of these "problem images" that inexplicably load slowly, returning to them subsequently is quick. I think my problem is just, as Rob suggested, that some part of Lightroom's "brain" has wacky ideas about whether an up-to-date 1:1 preview exists or not.
If I choose to "Never" automatically discard 1:1 previews (which is what I just switched to), then I should "Never" see unmodified images taking 3-5 seconds to "Load" at 1:1 zoom in Loupe.
Since I just nuked my Previews folder again last night and re-rendered 1:1's overnight for a 3000 image shoot, it might be a while before I start encountering this bug again. I will certainly post any further related experiences here and will keep checking for anyone who has further insight.
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Ian Lyons wrote:
...we know that Lr3.4 RC fixed the manual discard bug, so, if I were you I would focus any further tests on Lr3.4RC.
Thanks for pointing this out. I will upgrade to 3.4RC - at least then I will be able to force a rebuild of previews from one shoot without having to manually delete the previews for my entire catalog. I'll no longer have to throw out all the food in the refrigerator just because something smells funny.
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Ian Lyons wrote:
The DAT files are created at the same time as Library previews. However, they are only used in Develop module.
Yes, I definitely agree with this (although, the Cache is probably also used while rendering new previews after "Quick Develop" changes in the Library module....). I posted my observations to this effect just in case someone else wondered the same thing I did. It is clear that the DAT files get written every time a preview is rendered for RAW file. Rob, now that I'm thinking with a clearer mind, I think the only thing these Cached files are used for is if you "return" to recently rendered settings in Develop or Quick Develop - then, that particular combination of settings yields a match in the cache, and LR loads the image from the Cache into Previews and onto the screen. It is logical that the cache wouldn't help us when going to new settings, because the new settings would create a partially or completely different rendering than any other combination of settings. Adobe may be going to more advanced levels of "reusability" than this, but I'm sure this is the general state of things.
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