Whoever's going to buy a MSI 945P Neo2-F. Please read!!!

To All whose going to buy this board,
Please read the CPU Support Page for MSI 945P Neo2-F again!
Core: Pentium D (64-bit, Smithfield, Dual Core, FSB533, L2 Cache 2x1MB)
Family Name: Pentium D 805 (2.66GHz)
FSB: 533MHz
Stepping:20
Supported: NO
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=707&kind=1
It has already been stated that the Intel 805D CPU is NOT SUPPORTED and yet I just don't understand why there are still some who wants to try their luck and start pointing fingers for their own mistakes! Even for CPU that are listed under NONE, it is to say that end-users will have to try at their OWN RISK! Please read and research for your own good.

Both ways.
The reason for this thread is to serve as a warning as well as a Pre-Amp for those that wants to run this board with a 805D CPU.
Let us all stop the finger pointing from this point on. No matter how much we trash on, things will still be what they are. Likewise an apple can't turn into a pineapple no matter what though both are fruits.
If everyone does own research well, such will no happen today.

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sorry, think i must have slipped on something

Crappy BIOS on MSI 945P boards? Any chance getting better?

Hi all, I've already wrote it on different place but I'd like to know an answer, that's why I write it to a new thread.
I've got two MSI mainboards, both with the same chipset Intel 945P, just the bios differs; one AWARD the other AMIBIOS. Neverthless, both of them are experiencing similar problems in overclocking the CPU.
(1) MSI 945P Neo2-F and Intel P4 630 (Prescott, single core). My BIOS behaves "randomly" after changing the FSB. Other components offer a good reserve of performance and I am sure the CPU too. When increasing the FSB value for more than 15MHz, on reboot the system hangs and the original (200MHz) value is restored. If the FSB exceeds some 224MHz it always hangs and restores 200MHz. That mobo has an AMI Bios. No update seems to be available, as the MSI Live Update doesn't work (the server is probably down).
Even worse it is with a (2) MSI 945P Neo and the same CPU, with an Award Bios. The overclocking is also impossible. When the FSB value changed by just 1-2MHz, the system hangs on reboot and even though the manual claims that after 4 unsuccesfull attempts to boot it will restore defaults it won't. The only way is to open the case and remove the jumper to clear CMOS.
Though there's a possibility to overclock - through MSI Core center. Surprisingly, the same version of MSI CC offers different possibilities for each of the motherboards. (1) is overclockable just like 1%,3% .. 11% while for (2) it offers to change FSB by MHz and without limits.
That piece of software is crappy enough though and it is practically unusable, because on system reboot or power down it randomily (again) restores the original 200MHz FSB value.
I managed to oveclock P4 630 up to 4GHz without any problem by using MSI CC on (2) but annoyed by the issue described above, I decided not to use that kind of software.
According to other places on web, there are more guys around having the same troubles like me with 945P BIOSes, mainly what concerns OC. Here is my question: is there any chance that MSI will release a BIOS fixing this bug? Is there someone responsible for this so that I can report him the problems and he'll put some efforts in solving that issue or working on a new BIOS?
Thank you all who can help!

Quote from: kuni on 30-August-06, 16:19:09
Made some progress in understanding the problem.. I tried all possible BIOses, the FSB-PCIE sync/async didn't show in any of them except the oldest one. (it's a 1.0D BIOS version). When trying to OC with that BIOS, the same problems arose..PC locked up and even clear CMOS didn't help. So I went to our PC custommer service for a help. They changed CPU for a celeron and surprisingly, the PC worked like a charm, even FSB-PCIE sync/async appeared and I am sure there wouldn't be any problems with OC. Then they tried a different p4 630 and the problems were back. So it's obvious that the 945 based mobos from MSI don't deal with some CPUs correctly. I've already sent this to MSI but don't expect a fix for this.. luckily they gave me an ASUS for the same money instead and hope the problems aren't that of intel chipset as a whole but just that of MSI boards.. regards, Kuni.
P.S. if your mobo is still under warranty and wanna try to "hoax" your PC dealers for getting a new mobo like me, I can provide the old BIOS or just demand the MSI custommer service for w7176ims.10D
ok, i have checked the 1.5 BIOS from the link that kuni posted and CPU FSB & PCI-E is indeed hidden, but is set from default to async. all in all the features that are hidden in the 1.5 BIOS are already set at the best settings, so i don't see this as being a problem.

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I want to buy a msi p35 neo2 fr and a e2180 processors and i saw that on msi's memory list for this mobo there isn't any DDR II 800 mentioned for processors with 800 Mhz FSB .This means that the mobo doesn't work with DDR II 800 and a processor with 800 MHz FSB ?

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I am considering buying the MSI K8N Neo2 S939 mobo, and would like to know if my current RAM will work well.
I have Corsair PC3200 C2 TwinX (2x512) 2.5-3-3-6.
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Originally posted by 12au7
I have the 3200LL running 2-3-2-11 just fine.
Make sure you run at 2.75v or 2.8v and judgiung by the posts about the you should be fine. Corsair TwinX seems to work well in the Neo2
ty.
ok so i'll set 2.75 when i get my board.
After updating to the latest bios, are there any other BIOS config matters I should be aware of?
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I have a rather old MSI 945p Neo3 motherboard, and my graphics card just broke down. As my computer is old, and money is limited, I've decided to take the budget approach to buying a new graphics card, but I need to know if it will be compatible with my old motherboard. From what I understand, the 945p Neo3 uses a first generation PCI-E slot, and while PCI-E cards usually are backwards compatible, I've heard of people who have had problems with the very first generation of PCI-E (1.0a), while the slightly newer first generation PCI-E slots work (1.1). The card that I'm looking at is a ATI Radeon HD 5450 (which is the second cheapest card I can find at the moment). Does anyone know if this card will work on my aging computer?

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MSI 945p Neo3, which pci-e does it have?
http://eu.msi.com/product/mb/945P-Neo3.html#/?div=Detail
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• One PCI Express x16 slot. (supports PCI Express Bus specification v1.0a compliant)
• One PCI Express x1 slot. (support PCI Express Bus specification v1.0a compliant)

MSI 945p Neo-2 V Hanging...help!

Hi, after an exhaustive search regarding the problem and one previous post topic about the same thing happening (with absolutely no resolution, I might add) I've decided to start a new post topic to see if anything can be done.
I have in my possession an MSI 945p Neo-2 V (MS 7176 ver. 2A1 written between PCI slots) connected to various other components, all of which appear in my signature. When everything is connected and the power switch is pressed, the power turns on, the heatsink fan and computer fan both turn on and the hard drive clicks to life. After that..nothing. No bios, no "no os detected", nothing screaming at me that I done eff'd up. At this point the diagnostic bracket sits on this:
1. Red 2. Red
4. Red 3. Green
which tells me it's hanging on the video initialization. After RMAing the first board that did this to me and getting a completely new board and processor, the same thing happens.
I have tried the various steps suggested in the other topic: separate component testing, using only one memstick to get bios to post, sitting the mobo on a non-conductive surface and turning it on, checking front panel jumper connectors, but nothing seems to be working. I swapped out every component with known working ones to no avail. I swapped in every component to a working computer and separately they all work fine as well. The people I'm making this computer for have been waiting about a month for the RMA to go through and everything and I'm about to lose both my mind and reputation here. Can anyone help?
EDIT: Here's a link to the original topic I found - https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=94091.0
Other Edit: guess it's a neo-2 v, not h

Quote from: cas on 22-October-08, 07:26:52
i suggest you to swap the graphic card first and see how it goes.
Prior to this incident did you OC your rig??
Alternatively try clearing cmos or jump start the psu using a screw driver
-Yes, I swapped out graphics cards, with a known working one. Still no change. I thought "broken pci-e x16 slot" but this is the second mobo of that type that's doing this, so either this particular type of mobo is crap or I'm getting shafted.
-No I never OC'd (wasn't going to try, either), since it never got past the video init, and therefore couldn't get to the bios.
-Cleared the cmos (the JBAT1 jumper I believe) and still no change.
-And I really don't trust myself with a screwdriver and electricity.
-Finally, no, I didn't update the bios. This happened out-of-box.

I am going to BUY an XFI Fatility in just a few minutes and

Just so everyone on this message board knows, I have been reading and reading
till the only way I can determine if this thing works is by getting one. I have
come to grips that if it were to cause me to slick my dri've Ill do it. All I have to
do is remove a Li've 5. Platinum and drivers. That should be know problem for the preinstallation of the XFI.
I want to let anyone on here interested know that there is an ongoing software conflict with Logitech product drivers, Asus update(has never worked properly in my opinion anyway) further more about Asus upate , YOU SHOULD ALWAYS FLASH YOUR MB BIOS WITH AFUDOS FROM A BOOTABLE DISK. COMMAND PROMPT "AFUDOS /i[name of .rom] /o[save .rom]. Also notice I did not put a space inbetween the i and the file name as well as o for the save. I just flashed my Asus P4C800E-Deluxe with a long running Beta Bios of 024.0. Since its been up for months that ususally means for Asus it hasnt gotten any complaints to any severe extent or they would have pulled it. I actually notice an improvment in my system in fact.
So I am going to Pay 300 bills for this card because It should be a great audio card and I love the 5.25 bays.
I already determined that the new Setpoint drivers for the new Logitech Laser Cordless Mice caused a conflict. Also I feel the middle mouse button is not a good solution for gamers with it moving from side to side. I use the middle mouse button to zoom frequently.
Anyway. I bought the MX58 and used the drivers with it. Any version of setpoint drivers above these caused me conflicts and problems which initially pointed to hardware. So my point is that some of the problems everyone is having may be driver related.
Asus update PERIOD is buggy and dangerous. So take my advice never flash with it or use it period.
Secondly any new Logitech driver for whatever product may be the culprit. I am not kidding. I have proven it on my system.
BUT, all of you are probably laughing saying I am going to get screwed. Well I have decided to take the risk. I assure you I will come back and let you know my findings.
So here is where my system stands prior to loading an XFI probably Fatality or the $200 dollar model.
.)Asus P4C800E-Deluxe flashed to the 024.0 Bios. (no problems)
2.)EVGA 6800 Ultra with the newest nvidia certified drivers. Tweaked only with reg keys.
3.)gig Corsair 3200 memory in 4 slots and running correctly in Dual Channel.
4.)Raid 0 with more than enough disk space.
Within the past 2 weeks I did a complete slick of my dri've. I didnt ghost it. I loaded a minimum of ap
ps.
My favorite games only. So my computer is flying as a matter fact.
A good game to test your machine with is "Painkiller". Although the bugs in the game are well know. Crash to the screen. Hang during game play. If the game plays for long periods before any of these things occur than you have a really good game system running if you can play at 280x024 everything maxed in Painkiller that is. Also I play all my games in 280x024.
Furthermore take note of this. I just bought "Sin Emergence" ,loaded it and played it after Steam updated it. I had sound glitching problems in the game which I attribute to my outdated Li've 5.. It happens almost in all games. BUT I went to play F.E.A.R. Today and I got the infamous staticky movie intro visually as will as sound. I could go into video options once in the game and just make sure my res was set to my liking and get out and then it functioned I think properly.
Well I saved my save games and profile and uninstalled Fear. I reloaded it up to patch .4 and what do you know it works perfectly now.
So did Loading "Sin Emergence" cause this? Honestly its the only change I made since playing Fear so I would have to conclude that something did occur software wise to give me this problem.
I will tell you people I will troubleshoot the hell out of the XFI because I do believe that the moderators and such on the forum hear really dont know what is going on. The one thing alarming I did read was that
Creative Labs is prioritizing their work for Vista. That means compatibility in XP is not a high priority for them right now. Therefor it is up to us to get the thing to work.
So Ill be back

Its been 4 days now since I installed the XFI Platinum. I am still notating many things to make sure I get the best performance out of it.
For me fortunately the XFI is working. It did what I hoped it would do and that is take away the glitching and crackling and popping I was getting using an SB Li've 5. Platinum.
For anyone interested, and just to let you know I am a computer services business owner and technician for 9 years and have been working with creative products since the very first Sound Blaster 6 was around. Thats Dos and windows days for those who want the simple.
To the previous poster you are absolutely correct about the processes loading. As a technician you must never think you know everything so using Google is an everyday thing for me. I have already done it in regards to finding out what certain files are that are running at startup and even an outdated service that I dont need running. Since I did what you suggested yesterday before even reading this I will let other people learn from your suggestion and mine for that matter.
But you are wrong in implying that it is okay to flash a bios while in the operating system. I have been using Asus boards for years.
I have a P2B, CUSL, CUSL2, The VIQ P3 board I cant remember the model. Slot though and now I have the P4C800E-Deluxe
I would say I have quite a bit of experience using ASUS motherboards wouldnt you? Actually I have 4 running right now. The VIA board is the only one not in use but still works.
My first experiences with ASUS update were not good as a matter of fact. When I discovered it was attempting to flash my bios while working in the OS I cancelled QUICKLY.
Any technician that is experienced like myself will STRONGLY reccomend a MB Bios be flashed from a clean boot from either a CDrom or Floppy. Yes I know Floppy dri'ves are archaic now but everyone of my computers has one and even the new PCI-E boards I am pretty sure have the option of having a 3.5 floppy dri've. If I had the money to upgrade to an SLI Asus board and I had 2 7900s I would . I assure you. but my system works great.
I believe I already stated its specs.
Anyway my experience with the XFI after 4 days is like this.
I found it necessary to reinstall the game F.E.A.R and when I did the game showed the Creative HD logo which I did not see before the reinstall. Obviously I saved my profile and games. Any gamer knows to do this. So after reinstall I enabled all 3 features in the game , put my saved games back and its great. I mean great. The 3d in my headphones is worth the money alone. I am hearing sounds and music that I never heard before.
So here is my point. I would conclude that in some cases in MAY be necessary to reinstall a game to get the card to funcetion properly. With that being said it MAY be necessary to reinstall your OS as well. For me since I was using the driver that comes with XP and the update from creative I was fortunatelly so far behind I believe that is why I havnt had to reinstall my OS. This is my opinion purely and reinstalling an OS to get the XFI to work properly Is obviously a posibility for many people.
Many computer users do not know about disabling processes at startup. Disabling services.
Most people expect the hardware to work right no matter what condition their computer is in.
So my final thought on the 4th day is that if you can try it and you dont care, try reinstalling XP if thats your OS. I mean clean install. Save everything you need to save.
BUT DO NOT DO THIS WITH THE XFI IN THE SYSTEM. After the OS is loaded and you have connectivity to the net , drivers for your video card , then open your box up and put the card in and try installing it the way it says.
That seriously might get the card to work for many poeple. Almost all games have saved game folders that you can save. Most every serious PC user that would buy this card would also have their games on another partition or dri've itself.
So here are the test games I have used so far.
Doom 3
Painkiller
FEAR
I have many more games to test it with like Half Life 2, NFSMW, etc.
So Ill come back and tell you what I found.
Oh I have removed all unnessary processes I have been able to determine from Creative now and the XFI is running great. The Volume Panel doesnt seem to bog my system down. I mean I am playing FEAR at 280x024 with very good frame rates. I have EVGA 6800 Ultra OCed to 433Mhz Core Clock. I also OCed my P4 3.2 to 3.36
I hope every one gets theirs to work but I have to suggest that the XFI may not be so messed up as is beeing suggested by many. I almost didnt buy it because I read so many potential problems. I was most conserned about Service Pack 2. Incidentely I am still running Service Pack and the XFIs apps all loaded and are functioning properly. No errors.

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I am going to buy a macbook pro for grade 12, and I need to know wheather I should get a macbook pro or a macbook pro retina. If someone could tell me (in a very simple way) which one is,better for me and why, I would be ever so apprreciative.

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Your attending high school and unless everyone else is rich also your likely going to be a target by the more poorer students for theft or damage to the machine.
You could keep it home, but if you need it for class then your exposed again.
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Unless your made of money and so are others at your school, I would recommned a low profile, just does the job cheap Windows PC.
If it dies, gets lost, stolen or damaged because of your inexperince handling senstivie electronics then it's no big deal.
You can buy a Mac later on when your sure you have a need for it, currently there isn't much advantage of owning a Mac compared to a PC, they do just about the same things now, one just looks prettier than the other.
Since 95% of the world uses Windows PC's your going to have to install Windows on the Mac in order to keep your skills up there or be unemployed, so it's a extra headache and expense.
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i am going to buy unlocked iphone 5.. i will be going to india nxt months and will stay there for a while... so my question is will i get warrenty in india.. and will there be any problem with using indian sims..?? thnx for the help..

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