Whole Root / Sparse Root fusion // lofs problem

Hello everybody!
Actually i am getting probz with installations of software in sparse-root zones.
Especially caused by the lofs-techniques regarding /usr , /usr/bin and /usr/local, required for linking back the executables to the home folders of users in Sparse-Root zone.
are there any workarounds to obtain a functional setup for this cases or override the lofs-problem for linkage .
Read only after install to /usr/bin is o.k. but for Software install in Sparse Root it`s needed.
Encountered this problems with Oracle and DirX installs.
Whole-root zone obligation and the inherit disk usage would be unacceptable.
Would be running out of disk space.
Thanks for Replies !

Is there any option setable to temporarily override the "ro" lofs for an inherited-pkg-dir?
-fs-special?
The Application i want to install is DIRX for LDAP management.
It links the executable from /usr/bin to /export/home/ldap before finising the Installation.
The Installation is cacelled by the installer if the links cant be set.
After install there is no problem with "ro" access to the executable..
If i had to do all zones as whole-root zones i would use Xen on an Intel or amd based machine.
Sparse-root zone model is posible with Xen, but implies a lot of work.
The decision to solaris was due to low performance of Linux Kernels on Sparc compared with a native Solaris, the hardware of a Fire 880 was built for.
Any HowTo`s to a Workaround, e.g. a comand string ?( 4meNxDummy? ;) )

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