Why are my colors different?

I have some objects with spot colors in a file. The document color mode is CMYK. When I copy the objects, and place them into a new CMYK file, the colors appear differently. Plus, when I convert the colors to process, the values are different than when I convert the colors to process in the original file. I have saved both files, and I did not embed color profiles in either file (I think). Can anyone tell me what is going on here? mac cs6

If I select one of the spot colors in the original file, and go to "swatch options", it is a spot color CMYK mode. But if I select the same spot color in the new file, and go to "swatch options", the color mode is set to "book color".

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