Why can't I define bullet paragraph in Basic Paragraph style?

I would like to set up my Basic Paragraph style so that I can quickly apply bullets to individual paragraphs - using MY preferred indents - without having to create a new style for the bullet paragraphs. I tried changing the settings of the Basic Paragraph style, with no documents open, but it doesn't seem to want to accept my choice of indents. First I selected bullets and set an indent, but then the whole paragraph defaults to bullets. When I switch the bullet setting back to "none" the only thing that it keeps is the last setting I chose for tabs. (Which simultaneously changes the default tab setting for all paragraphs.) But when I create a new doct and start a bullet paragraph, the indents always default to .25/-.25, and any tab setting LESS than .25 results in the first line indenting to the tab setting, but the rest of the paragraph indenting to .25. There seems to be no way to change the default indent for bullets without creating a new paragraph style. And usually I'm fine with that. But I thought I would like to have a quick default using the Basic Paragraph style. Am I missing something or is this just not possible?
Here is a visual/verbal screenshot to help explain:

Let's see if I understand this differently from the others. You want to apply bullets manually from time to time without having to select a new style, you want to do this by pressing the bulleted list button in the Control panel, and you want settings for tabs and indents other than the default. Is that correct?
As far as I can tell there is no way currently to do this. You cannot set up the parameters for bullets unless the text cursor is active or you are defining a style, so there is no way to set up new defaults. You don't want to set up parameteres everytime you need a bullet, so, either you type the bullets manually, tab and insert an indent to here character, which is actually a lot more work, or you go ahead and set up the style. You can access the style list in the dropdown on the Control panel, or you can add a keyboard shortcut to give you quick access, or hit Ctrl (Cmd on Mac) + Enter to access Quick apply and start typing the name of the style (almost as fast as a keyboard shortcut).

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