Why can't I get messages to work in new iPad?

I have new wireless ipad and the ipad1 When trying to use messages it works in ipad1 but I get Could not sign in Please check your network settings and try again message. the facetime won't activate either. my network works because I can get online . What am I doing wrong?
I use same apple id for both.

No iMessage and no facetime on my new iPad 3. It won't let me authorize either with my apple ID. but I still get the "Could not sign in, Please check network settings and try again" which I have numeroous time.
My network works fine for everything else.
I can do the iMessage on orginal ipad with no problem which I set up with my apple id. This is very frustrating. Any help would be appreciated.
My imac is on snow leopard and all the apps download with no problems so why not able to use iMessage and facetime on my new iPad 3??? I did not set up the iPad 3 with my computer.

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