Why can't I organize third party menu bar icons?

Is there a way I can organize third party menu bar icons? I know I can organize preinstalled Apple icons such as the battery indicator and time/date, but how do I order third party menu bar icons so that when I restart, they will stay in that order?

Great question.
And a related one: is there a utility to organize these? I have a ton and it would be cool to have a show/hide toggle or something.

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