Why cant Soundtrack Pro be sold seperately?

Hello, first time poster on the forum and i have a couple of questions on my mind.
I'm getting a microphone w/pop filter, sound foam, and a mixer. I am thinking of buying Logic Pro 7 as my audio program, as well as soundtrack pro. The thing is, I cant buy Soundtrack Pro separately. The audio reduction in soundtrack pro is amazing and Logic Pro 7 doesn't offer that feature, which is what I want. I was thinking of buying Logic Pro 7 and Soundtrack Pro and using them together, but unfortunately Soundtrack Pro isn't sold separately. I would have to buy Final Cut Studio which is $1299 and Logic which is $999. Spending $2,300 hundred for both is ridiculous because I just want Soundtrack pro. My question is why isn't it sold separately, and if it is does anyone know where I can buy it?
Thanks
Steve

It's not a program designed to appeal to the sound
design or the musical song & dance group.
Your opinion. While I would never use it for music, it's a good start at an app for sound designers. Unfortunately, they haven't given it the updates it needs.
It's a program designed to assist video editors to
prepare a mix that would suffice for a preview
screening & do a rough sketch to present to an actual
sound designer using Logic or Pro Tools indicating
what the editor or director had in mind so that the
sound designer can come up with something better.
While Logic can be used for sound design, it is not remotely designed for it and in some respects is worse than even the primitive release of STP. And I honestly think it could take the place of Pro Tools in many situations if they put the resources into updating it.
In my opinion, they wanted to put an end to all the
carping from the groups who bought the program for
the wrong reason. In most cases these individuals
have no interest in FCP, DVDSP or Motion. They want
to make music. I think the decent thing for Apple to
do is to offer to refund their money or at least give
them a credit towards another Apple program such as
Logic.
I don't think people bought the app for the wrong reason (I think few if any bought it to "make music"). I just think that people bought the app not realizing that Apple would abandon it and never update it past a version that is buggy and missing essential features.
While I'm annoyed with Apple and would certainly take a refund, I'm reluctant to give the program up because even the weak version it is at now has some features that I can't do in Logic (and the versions of PT available don't interest me).
Power Mac G5 quad 2.5 and Mini duo 1.66 Mac OS X (10.4.7)

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Process:         Soundtrack Pro [1705]
Path:            /Applications/Soundtrack Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Soundtrack Pro
Identifier:      com.apple.soundtrackpro
Version:         3.0.1 (960)
Build Info:      SoundtrackProProject-9600000~277
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [140]
Date/Time:       2011-10-18 13:12:05.201 +0200
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.7.2 (11C74)
Report Version: 9
Interval Since Last Report:          195725 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           3
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   2
Anonymous UUID:                      23728D81-590B-4C3A-8C67-1709945CD132
Crashed Thread: 0
Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information:
dyld: launch, loading dependent libraries
Dyld Error Message:
Library not loaded: /Library/Application Support/ProApps/*/ProFX.framework/Versions/A/ProFX
Referenced from: /Applications/Soundtrack Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Soundtrack Pro
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Message was edited by: Ian R. Brown

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[ I spoke with Apple Support. The problem appears to be that Compressor is required to install Soundtrack Pro and Compressor was not installing on my computer. We removed all of the "receipts" in the library and copied them to a backup folder on the desktop. Then, we inserted the Logic Studio install disk and now it allowed me to install both Compressor and SoundTrack Pro (previously the Compressor box was grayed out). Then, I updated the software using Software Update, copied the receipts back into the folder (importantly - you do not replace any duplicate receipts when you copy the files back) and restarted the computer. Now I can launch both Soundtrack Pro and Compressor.
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