Why did rebuilding my Aperture library increase its size by 50 GB?

After updating to 3.3, library conversion was no problem, but I rebuilt the library today and its size increased from 125 GB to 173 GB. This is large enough to be discomforting. All masters (orginals, I guess, now) are referenced.

I have maintain previews off. For ones that I need (like to share with iPhone, Flickr, etc.), I generate them manually. I might try deleting all previews and see what happens to the library size.
I rebuilt because vault updates (for both exisiting and new vaults) were hanging.

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Firstly i typo'ed the RAID number (sorry but sounds like you realized).
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