Why do the piano roll and event editor act differently?

In Logic Studio 9, this wasn't the case, but there are numerous examples now where editing MIDI in the event view acts right, and editing the same MIDI content in the piano roll acts wrong. It's extremely frustrating! Personally, I think who ever modified the behavior of the Piano Roll in Logic 10 should be fired on the spot. I'd downgrade to 9 in a heartbeat if it was still available in the App Store.
Two examples off the top of my head:
- Selecting a MIDI note in the event viewer selects ONLY the note and not all the MIDI objects that fall within the time span of that note. This is not the case in the piano roll as it assumes that when you select a note, you want *more* than just the note you're clicking on. This is a stupid assumption and is new in 10.
- Dragging midi notes in the piano roll randomly deletes all non-note events and changes the action from "move" to "copy" where the only workaround when the piano roll gets stuck in this state is to do the same action in the event viewer.
Please rollback changes made to the piano roll in 10 back to what 9 was as I've wasted countless hours of my life trying to work around these flubs!

Try making a blank project with no settings at all and just add a bass from whatever plugin. Make sure there are no plugins at all on the track (not just muted but removed). Then try again.
I believe palying on the pianoroll with the mouse plays at 127 velocity but I ain´t sure. How about the output? Does it clip/go red? Then it will disort.

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Pancenter wrote:
christianobermaier wrote:
Uncheck the Link button of the Piano Roll.
Christian
The only version(s) that showed both previously recorded notes and new ones as they were played was the last few PC versions of Logic.
pancenter-
I wonder why they did away with that...it's very helpful to be able to see that....

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I have been using a J Dilla and Lex Luger drum kit in the ESX24 sampler and I recorded a beat using them, some software instruments, and audio. Everything works fine for a while and then all of the sudden the notes from the green software instrument bar disappear and I can't hear any of the things I recorded with my downloaded drum kits. I checked in the piano roll, and nothing is there. All of my other software instruments that weren't from an imported sample worked fine.
The first time this happened, I was able to just close the project and open it up again because I didn't add anything new. Everything was there when I reopened it. But it happened a second time, and I want to see if there is a way to get my samples back without having to lose all of my progress. Any Ideas?

jamgarske wrote:
... but the "notes" in the software instrument tracks that contain instruments that I downloaded from the internet have disappeared and won't play back. The green region stays there but the notes have disappeared.
The Track (containing the Regions) and the Channel Strip (containing the Software Instrument Track) are two different objects and you can assign (reassign) a Track to any Channel Strip. That's why it is strange that the choice of Instrument (Channel Strip) affects the Regions (Track).
Just to make sure:
You create a Software Instrument Track (A)
You load the EXS24 on that Channel Strip (assigned to that Track A) and load one of those drum kits you got from the internet
You can play that drum kit on the EXS24 with your external MIDI controller when you selected that Track A.
When you record those MIDI notes, you see a new Green MIDI Region is created on the Track Lane of Track A
When you select that MIDI Region and open the Piano Roll (or the Event List), you don't see any MIDI notes.
That would mean, the MIDI Region was created but no MIDI Notes were created
Is that what happened?
It seems that you added a DropBox link with an image. I cannot see that, only a question mark. If this is a screenshot, you can post that directly on the post by clicking the area icon in the formatting bar.

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I usually use the right mouse-button to open the toolbox under the cursor but this doesn't appear to work within the piano-roll edit window in Pro X. Is this the same for everyone? The right-click works in all other windows. Seems pretty odd.
Also is it just me who finds the near-black background very oppressive? I worked in front of Pro X for several hours yesterday and was left wishing I could change the background colour of the main and edit windows. Is there any way to do this?
I also really need to be able to access custom colours for the colour palette as the new palette doen't sit at all well with me. Any ideas anyone? The manual states that if you double-click on a colour it should open the colour editor but it doesn't.....

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Sebi
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it seems as if the Link Button (Yellow chain symbol) has been removed from the piano roll for no reason. In Score View it is still there.
I (and probably more users) absolutely NEED that Button to decouple the content of the piano roll from the selected track/region AND to use multiple piano roll windows with independent content.
- For transscripting (Mute/Solo Audio regions while editing a Midi-Region)
- For arranging. Edit 2 different midi regions both in separate Piano Roll windows
- For recording. "Reading" Drum-Patterns while recording the Bass e.g.
Please bring that button back or explain why it was removed
Best regards,

View two midi events on the piano roll

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Take two midi events on two separate channels (eg kick on inst 1 channel 1 and snare on inst 2 channel 2) - when highlighting both strips in the arrange, then opening the piano roll (cmd+6), I used to be able to view both. But in logic 9 only one of them can be viewed.
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Delete the user preferences
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Type ~/Library/Preferences in the "Go to the folder" field.
Press the Go button.
Remove the com.apple.logic10.plist file from the Preferences folder. Note that if you have programmed any custom key commands, this will reset them to the defaults. You may wish to export your custom key command as a preset before performing this step. See the Logic Pro X User Manual for details on how to do this. If you are having trouble with a control surface in Logic Pro X, then you may also wish to delete the com.apple.logic.pro.cs file from the preferences folder.
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I can create a track in a midi region, yet when I select the midi region the data does not appear in the piano roll! It did uintil I deleted a few tracks and now only 1 midi region appears and I cannot select another. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

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it's here where one can configure a mouse device.
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Why are the threads start and terminate randomly?

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I got the program below. I am wondering why are the threads start and terminate randomly? Everytime, I run the program, it produces different results.
I know that these four threads have got same normal priority (should be 5), and under windows there is something called timeslice. Then these four threads rotate using this timeslice. How do we know what exactly the timeslice is in seconds? If the timeslice is fix, then why the results are ramdom?
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Thread.sleep(10000);
and I run the program it gives:
Thread: 1
Thread: 4
Thread: 2
Thread: 3
Terminating thread: 1
Terminating thread: 3
Terminating thread: 4
Terminating thread: 2
Terminating thread: main thread.
BUILD SUCCESSFUL (total time: 10 seconds)
Run it again, it gives:
Thread: 2
Thread: 4
Thread: 3
Thread: 1
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Terminating thread: 1
Terminating thread: 3
Terminating thread: 4
Terminating thread: main thread.
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And my question was why it outputs like this? It suppose to be:
Thread: 1
Thread: 2
Thread: 3
Thread: 4
Terminating thread: 1
Terminating thread: 2
Terminating thread: 3
Terminating thread: 4
Terminating thread: main thread.
BUILD SUCCESSFUL (total time: 10 seconds)
Why these four threads start and finish randomly each time I run the program? I use Windows, suppose there is a timeslice (i.e. 1 second), these threads have the same priority. Then the threads should start and finish in turn one by one. Am I right?
2. My second question is:
When I change the codes in the 'main' function into:
Thread.sleep(10000); -> Thread.sleep(2000);
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Thread: 1
Thread: 4
Thread: 3
Thread: 2
Terminating thread: main thread.
Terminating thread: 1
Terminating thread: 4
Terminating thread: 3
Terminating thread: 2
BUILD SUCCESSFUL (total time: 2 seconds)
Run it again:
Thread: 1
Thread: 2
Thread: 3
Thread: 4
Terminating thread: 3
Terminating thread: main thread.
Terminating thread: 4
Terminating thread: 2
Terminating thread: 1
BUILD SUCCESSFUL (total time: 2 seconds)
I tried several times. The main thread always terminates before or after the first child thread finished.
My question is why it doesn't output something like:
Thread: 1
Thread: 2
Thread: 3
Thread: 4
Terminating thread: 3
Terminating thread: 4
Terminating thread: 2
Terminating thread: main thread.
Terminating thread: 1
BUILD SUCCESSFUL (total time: 2 seconds)
or
Thread: 1
Thread: 2
Thread: 3
Thread: 4
Terminating thread: 3
Terminating thread: 4
Terminating thread: 2
Terminating thread: 1
Terminating thread: main thread.
BUILD SUCCESSFUL (total time: 2 seconds)

user13476736 wrote:
Yes, my machine has multi-core. Then you mean that if I got a one core machine the result should always be:
Thread: 1
Thread: 2
Thread: 3
Thread: 4
Terminating thread: 1
Terminating thread: 2
Terminating thread: 3
Terminating thread: 4
Terminating thread: main thread.
BUILD SUCCESSFUL (total time: 10 seconds)
???No.
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How to explain my second quesiton then? Why the main thread always terminates before some of the child threads end? Thanks a lot.

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