Why does my 24fps look bad on my TV?

I just got the Panasonic AG-HMC150. I have shot some footage at both 1080p24 and 720p24. I transcode the files to Pro Res in FCP and they look pretty good, I realize the panning isn't as smooth as 60i. I drag one of the files into the FCP timeline and let it automatically "optimize my settings" for the sequence. I have verified that it is 23.98fps and field dominance is none. I have tried selecting "share" and going straight to AVCHD from FCP, and also taking the original MTS file, and Apple Pro Res and dropping into Toast and trying that way. The footage just looks choppy, jiddery and unsmooth. I have seen enough movies in my life to know that when they pan, or have cars drive by, that movies 24fps looks a million times better. My Sony HDTV even accepts and displays 24fps, and when I press info on the TV remote when watching one of these AVCHD discs it in fact says 1080 (or 720) 24p. It just looks bad. Even taking the HDMI output from the camera and hooking up to the TV and playing from the camera looks lousy.
What am I doing wrong? I know a ton of post work goes into Hollywood movies, but why does their 24fps look nice and smooth and mine looks horrible? Do I need to render with pulldown in FCP or something. I can't figure it out. Any advice, suggestions?

I transcode through FCP to apple pro res, the files shows up as 1920x1080 24fps. Field dominance is none. I edit the video and then export as quicktime movie using current settings. The Pro Res file says 23.98 when played in quicktime so I know that's good. I simply then drop the file into Toast (10.0.4) and burn blu-ray disc, selecting DVD as the media. I noticed too I need to change the field dominance under the encoding tab in Toast to progressive, as automatic doesn't work. It only burns the top half of the image. Regardless, when I make these discs and play them on PS3, my TV's info says 1080/24p. Maybe my eyes aren't use to seeing 24fps. Does it sound like I am doing anything wrong in my workflow/encoding process.
Again, good tip on the shutter speed Jerry.

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Why does my encode look bad?!?

OK! Here are my problems.
My source material is a Quicktime movie, Animation codec, rendered from After Effects. 1280x720 at 23.976fps. It looks great. The duration is about 3 minutes in length.
I have taken that footage and encoded it using Sorenson Squeeze 5 into .mp4 files (h.264) using the Sorenson codec, the Main Concepts codec and the Apple codec. All at VBR rate of 20Mbits.
Problem #1: Importing pre-encoded files into Encore results in Encore wanting to transcode them again. I never had this problem with SD DVDs, but it seems I cannot import h.264 files without Encore wanting to re-encode them.
Problem #2: Well, I guess I am stuck using Encore's built in encoder. This sucks because I like the additional controls I have encoding using Sorenson. Sooooo, I transcoded my uncompressed Apple Animation Quicktime file and then I built a folder.
The problem with #2 is that Encore's encode looks like crap. Text and images clearly appear aliased. Maybe it is converting the video to 50i instead of keeping it at 24p, but my project settings are clearly set for 24p. As a test, I used the VLC player to play the files out of the encoded folder as well as within the Encore environment.
So, first of all, why won't Encore work with my files I encoded/transcoded in Sorenson Squeeze? I know these files are encoded great, they look great... what's up?!?!
Second, anyone else experiencing odd issues with transcoding in Encore?
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John,
Ok. Here is our production process for the majority of our work:
1. Sources are either still pictures, vector art, or 24p (23.976). We are pretty effect heavy, so virtually everything gets finished in After Effects. We used to utilize higher-end software, but these days AE works fine for 90% of the workload.
2. We then render to Quicktime - Animation - 100 quality. This is a lossless codec and gives you some pretty huge files. We tried AVI files, but those ended up larger. We render to 23.976 progressive, no fields at all.
3. Into Sorenson Squeeze where we encode into On2 .fla files to display in Flash. Soon we will dual encode in On2 and h.264 for use in Flash. If the end-user is running the newer Flash 9 player, it will pull the h.264 files otherwise it will run the On2.
Now, everything we author is at 720/24p. For the web we pretty much just half the vertical and horizontal resolution (640x360). But for Blu-Ray, we have our source Quicktime animation at full 720/HD resolution.
4. We now open the Quicktime (Apple Animation Codec) into Preimere where we just drop it on the timeline and use the Adobe Media Encoder to generate a Blu-Ray H.264 file. We make sure to uncheck the deinterlace button as it is on by default (even known the source is progressive). This is where Encore fails. Encore seems to deinterlace period, so if your source is already progressive, Encore does a great job of making it look worse by deinterlacing non-interlaced footage.
(Note: Make sure when you encode in Premiere that your maximum bit rate on export is not greater than what you set in Encore or else Encore might transcode again)
5. Import your files into Encore. Your video file and audio file will be two different files. Oh, to encode in Dolby Digital out of Preimere you need a license. We have the Master Collection, but I am not sure if we got a license for that included? However, I am sure you can load up a number of other applications to generate your Dolby digital audio file if you need that. We use used PCM for these jobs, seemed fine.
Burn your Blu-Ray.
Things that still don't work:
h.264 content seems to only import from Premiere properly. I have used a number of encoders now to create Blu-Ray compliant h.264 and every time Encore wants to re-transcode them. Come on Adobe! This bug deserves a patch, seriously.
If you use a progressive clip as an animated menu, Encore deinterlaces it!! And I cannot find a way, at all, to get around that. Again, come on. What is up with the deinterlacing by default in Encore. Even when I need footage deinterlaced Encore is the last tool I would want doing the job!
Blu-ray authoring in Encore is slow. Moments before you will be in Premiere and then when you move to Encore it will feel as though your working through a molasses filter. In addition, Encore is flaky and sometimes your projects will get weirded out and you have to re-build them from scratch.
How about this, new rule, all Adobe employees are required to build 5 blu-ray discs this month. Two of them have to have animated backgrounds. Three should be built with progressive source material, one with interlaced material and one with mixed material. All of them should have professional video quality in the final disc.
Now, report to yourselves the massive amount of bugs you find and get them fixed. You will probably need to put a large portion of your workforce in therapy after being subjected to this process... just FYI.

Team Blog: Why does my page look different in BrowserLab?

Duane O'Brien, engineer on the BrowserLab team has a new blog post on the BrowserLab Team blog that you might find interesting. It covers when/why you might see rendering differences between the BrowserLab browsers and your local browsers. Good info.
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Why does the videos looks so slow

why does the videos looks so slow only in the internet

Many reasons, like what format they are, for instance Flash Videos will be slower.
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What can I do in Adobe that I can't in FCPX? + Why does FCPX have a bad reputation

Somewhere else, I was told that disgruntled Apple users where going to Adobe and leaving FCPX
Why is this?
What can be done in the Adobe suite of programs that isn't handled well in FCPX?
Is FCPX an all in one solution?
Does it allow me to do everything that can be done in After Effects for example? (I ask without actually knowing what After Effects is for - I've just heard it mentioned looadds)
Why does FCPX have a bad reputation?
I've read that it's not backwards compatible with previous version
That *****! But... doesn't effect me as I'm coming in as a new user
Thanks
Omar

omar.m wrote:
Somewhere else, I was told that disgruntled Apple users where going to Adobe and leaving FCPX
Why is this?
What can be done in the Adobe suite of programs that isn't handled well in FCPX?
Different editors have different needs, and while FCP X offers some really innovative features it lacks other things that some editors need in order to be competitive/get work in their environment. It is not just what you can actually edit (read: tell a story) with a piece of software but also about format support, workflows, collaboration to name just a few.
FCP X is an editor with a few effects built in, in addition to which you can get Compressor for output and Motion for VFX. Adobe actually offers a whole suite of products that range from editing to VFX, from color grading to Blu-Ray authoring.
omar.m wrote:
Is FCPX an all in one solution?
Does it allow me to do everything that can be done in After Effects for example? (I ask without actually knowing what After Effects is for - I've just heard it mentioned looadds)
FCP X is not an all-in-one solution. As I said above it is an editor with a few built-in effects and titles.
After Effects is for visual effects, green screen .... stuff like that. It is quite powerful but does not actually have anything to do with editing itself (that is Premiere)
omar.m wrote:
Why does FCPX have a bad reputation?
I've read that it's not backwards compatible with previous version
That *****! But... doesn't effect me as I'm coming in as a new user
Because when it was released many features that editors were relying on/accustomed to were missing (XML support to name only one at random) which caused many to switch to Adobe or Avid. That fact that some of these features were added back in subsequent updates didn't really seem to repair the damage.
Since you are a new user get the trial version and give it a go. You will need a fast machine with lots of RAM and fast external storage.

Why does my site look nothing like the design and during testing once uploaded to the server?

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Why does my title type look bitmapped (jaggies)? It's fine in iMovie but looks crappy once I burn the DVD. The max. resolution is 720 x 540.

Hi
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The PDF file itself does not control the "print as image" preference, which should always be turned OFF unless there's a specific need to rasterize the entire page, and is turned off by default in all Acrobat and Adobe Reader installations.
What's the filetype for the ultralight font and what export setting* are you using in ID? If you're exporting to earlier than PDF1.7, OpenType fonts will be converted and may experience some small changes in shape if their hint definitions aren't done right.
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Why does my color look so different in CS5 compared to CS4?

Hi everyone,
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I am completely baffled...what am I missing? Is there another setting I have missed out on within InDesign?
Thank you,
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I went into my desktop version of CS5 and loaded completely different color settings...pressed okay, then went BACK straight away and reloaded my usual [custom] color settings and all suddenly looked PERFECT. [I am going to have to verify this when I go into work tomorrow as I just tested via remote login so am looking at things via my macbook screen. The color difference was VERY noticeable at first between the two ID versions on my desktop so I was able to easily tell. Now they look the same.
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Why does my text look jagged in Fireworks CS4?

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I posted a similar discussion a few months ago and while many were very helpful with their suggestions I have all but given up with using text in Fireworks.
It just isn't worth the bother when other applications can do text with no fuss and no messing with sizes and resolutions. I tend to use illustrator or dare I say it, Paintshop Pro which produces text easily and clearly within a text box or over an image
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Why does my png look so good in fireworks, and so bad after i copy it somewhre

I have created a basic graphic as my logo for a new business.
Im importing the graphic into business card creator. The image
looks crystal clear when I view it in Fireworks, but as soon as I
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Go to modify -> canvas -> image size. Chang your
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DV camcorder to iMovie / iDVD - Why does my DVD look so bad?

I have an SD DV camcorder (a canon opt-40 model which is quite decent for SD)which when I hookup directly to my TV puts out a pretty decent picture.
I have imported the video from this camcorder into iMovie and done the assembly. I then put it through iDVD to burn a DVD. Many hours later I get my 1 hour long DVD and put it into my DVD player and play it and see a significantly degraded poor picture (youtube quality).
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What am I missing? What can I set to retain better quaility for my imported video?

Somewhere along the iLife chain I must have lost resolution but I can't seem to find settings to increase the quality or resolution.
You can't.
What am I missing?
iMovie 06.
For faster editing iMovie 09 uses single-field processing. This means every other horizontal line of the video is thrown out, which reduces the sharpness of the footage.
Your primary workflow is editing DV clips and making DVDs, iMovie '06 is better suited. Your movie will arrive at iDVD in DV format, which is an ideal match for making a DVD: same resolution, same pixels, same aspect ratio, and original quality. If you share your movie from iMovie 09, it gets re-rendered at 640x480 or less, and then iDVD upscales it back to 720x480. The end result is obviously not as good.
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But be prepared to pay about double the cost of iLife 09 (but well worth every penny). Seller's are becoming aware of its value.
I use iMovie 06 and iDVD 09 and my DVD's look like they came from Hollywood!
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Why does iTunes suck so bad?

I use iTunes for Windows and the program is awful. Great if I'm looking to buy music, terrible for actually playing said music.
It freezes the first time I open it every time I turn on my computer. I can't change it's audio output to play through the speakers I want. I have exclamation points next to songs, saying iTunes can't find them, even though they have never moved.
Why can't iTunes monitor my folders instead of me having to manually add new music to my library? Why can't my wife and I have different lists of checked songs for easy syncing? Why do I have to re-download iTunes every time a slightly updated version is released? Why is iTunes this painful to use when Microsoft's had all this figured out with WMP for years? Does anyone have any idea on how to fix any of this?

travis184 wrote:
I use iTunes for Windows and the program is awful. Great if I'm looking to buy music, terrible for actually playing said music.
It freezes the first time I open it every time I turn on my computer. I can't change it's audio output to play through the speakers I want. I have exclamation points next to songs, saying iTunes can't find them, even though they have never moved.
If files are on a disconnected resource, i.e. an external or network drive, when iTunes starts you generally have to close iTunes, connect the drive and restart iTunes otherwise iTunes "knows" the media is not available. See also a post on exclamation marks and Getting iTunes & Windows Media Player to play nicely.
Why can't iTunes monitor my folders instead of me having to manually add new music to my library?
Because it isn't designed to. See iTunes Folder Watch for a workaround.
Why can't my wife and I have different lists of checked songs for easy syncing?
Use playlists, not check marks. Check marks have other side effects and shouldn't really be used as a sync selection mechanism.
Why do I have to re-download iTunes every time a slightly updated version is released? Why is iTunes this painful to use when Microsoft's had all this figured out with WMP for years? Does anyone have any idea on how to fix any of this?
I'll take the 5th. You can let Apple know how you feel or make suggestions at iTunes Feedback.
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Why does the Video looks Pixelated after Burning DVD

In IDVD when I preview the video it looks great, when I burn the DVD it comes out very very pixelated. I've changed the preferences from Best Performance to Best Quality, and the project properties as well I've done the same. Does anyone know why this is happening?
I'm using 16:4 aspect ratio Video Size is 1280x720
Help

How are you viewing the DVD you created - on a computer or on a TV?
In IDVD when I preview the video it looks great
The preview uses your original content on your hard drive and is simply designed to allow you to see if the 'flow' (sequences, menus, etc) are what you wanted.
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