Why does my phone mic stop working when i turn on speaker?

this problem started suddenly
went from mic being too sensitive while phone speaker is on to not warepicking up normal voice
is there some setting? corrupted app? hardware seems ok because
mic works fine with speaker off

tried reset, then a restore and even vacuumed the mic and it still won't work while the speaker is activated
use of earphones uses mic normally
is there some echo cancellation circuitry that could have failed?

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