Why does no one care about loyal customers???

I canNOT believe that I have to take this issue to the top of the company! I ask for one thing after being a customer for more than a decade. I ordered 3 new phones for them - we decided to keep 2 and exchange the 3rd in this 2 week deceptive no worry time period. I spoke with customer service over and over ad nauseum. finally after the time had expired and there was still no resolution - I was told that i had the phone more than 2 weeks. Of course I had!!!! I called in almost every day during that allotted period and kept getting passed around to supposed supervisors but really God only knows where. Finally I was told that I would be getting a new phone via mail and could simply send the original back once it arrived. After about 1 week I phoned in as the phone had yet to arrive. All of the sudden there was nothing they could do - who did I speak with - what exactly did they say to you... i explained the entire situation over and over day after day. I felt pathetic. But I thought for sure that they would do the right thing. By this time it had been over a month. The most frustrating thing - the phone I want to send back was not as nice as the one I ordered. It had 4G and was brand new - I wanted the iphone 4 not even the 5 just the 4 (that was the make and model of the 2 other in my order)! I did not realize at the time that the apple version of a phone would benefit me more as being a Special Education teacher all of our equipment is of this company, I told more than one employee via telephone that I have 2 ipads for my classroom. They have great apps to serve students with special needs. Budgets being what they are a few of my assistance allow the children to use their phones so more students can have access. Even with this they still said no - seriously - NO! I could not believe it so I headed up the management chain. I finally stalled when I came in contact with a woman name LUCY! She lead me on for weeks that she would be able to fix the problems and apologized. Great, right? NOPE - she finally called back and said she was unable to locate the correct documentation of my phone calls to Verizon and that it was my fault. She actually blamed me for the poor documentation. As if what I was supposed to ask them to send me a copy of what they wrote? She then tried to blame it on APPLE and not verizon. I have never been so disgusted. I am still trying to have them make this right and for the foreseeable will continue to do so. I dont know why but I actually feel betrayed - like how dare you do this to me - but then thankfully for rational side kicks in reminding me this is just business - bad business - but business. And now I realize thanks to Lucys pathetic attempts to justify her poor skill at service that I have become nothing but a case number - not even a name. It is infuriating! Hundreds of dollars a month for more than a decade - and this is how they treat loyalty. Who ever if anyone actually reads these - FIX IT!!!

Part of the way Verizon makes its money is by dragging out issues like this so you are stuck with the phone you originally purchased. That is one reason why I do NOT buy anything from Vreizon Online or over the phone. I will go to either the corporate store or even lately a very trustworthy Third Party Reseller (actually have much better service here than anything Verizon)
That said what I would do is the following.
Contact Customer Relations (not customer service)
Contact the BBB (although they will not do much for you but it will log a complaint for Verizon)
Contact The Federal Trade Commission (they do not like false advertising or cases where the company tries to drag thing beyond the specified trade time)
If nothing gets resolved there, go to a third party reseller and find out the following
1) if they have any slightly used iPhone 4's for sale. My local Third Party reseller usually has a few for under $200
2) ask the third party reseller if they can in fact sell the phone you are trying to change here as they can probably get you the 200 back or close to it
3) Tell all of your friends and co workers about your issues with Verizon so they do not get sucked into the trap as well.
As a side note, I have a ton of respect for what you do and will help any way possible including checking my local third party reseller that I now exclusively use to see if they have one they can do. I will put you into contact with them or whatever is necessary. I have a son in the Special Ed Program now for the last 12 years and the program has changed his life completely and I owe that to the dedication of the teachers.

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Why doesn't Verizon care about loyal customers?

I have been a customer of yours for the last 10 years, and when I renewed my contract this year, I had an idea I might be moving overseas for a two year teaching commitment. Your store agent assured me that it would be possible to suspend my line for up to 2 years if necessary (non-military suspension), so that I could keep my number while I was overseas. I ended up accepting this two year position overseas, and am now discovering that what he promised was false.
Since I would not have renewed my contract if I had been told the truth, and because I have been a faithful customer with Verizon for the last decade, I asked for the $210 cancellation fee to be waived. Your customer service rep, Jessica, Badge (removed) refused to waive this fee. Not only was she unwilling to work with me, she was also unable to give me the number to customer service. She told me to go on myverizon.com, but was unable to direct me to a customer services phone number, whereupon she suggested that I just go Google it myself. I don't mind looking up your customer service phone number, but I find it astonishing that a floor supervisor was unable to provide it to me directly. I also am stunned that the cancellation fee was not able to be waived, given the circumstances.
Despite my tenure with Verizon (or perhaps because of it), I am left in awe of how badly your company chooses to treat its constituents. This entire experience leaves me feeling that my loyalty to your company has been profoundly misplaced, and so when I return to the states, not only will I not be returning to Verizon, I will also caution my family and friends against using Verizon.
I understand that you're a gigantic company, and you probably don't care one bit about one upset customer, but on the off chance you do care, or want to review your policies, I figured I should probably tell you about this, rather than keep it to myself.
>> Edited to comply with the Verizon Wireless Terms of Service <<
Message was edited by: Verizon Moderator

Hi Amh00,
Oh my! We always to provide accurate information when making changes to your account. Congrats on your new position. We apoologize, for the behavior that you received from the supervisor, it was unacceptable and not tolerated at Verizon Wireless. We know that there are times when you may need to suspend your services for various reasons. We do offer that ability to suspend for other reasons outside of lost/stolen or military suspend. When selecting “Other” as your reason for suspending your service, your line will remain suspended for up to 90 days. For each line of your account, you can only suspend your service for up to 180 days in a 365-day period.
If you choose to suspend service without billing, then your billing will automatically resume at the same time that service resumes
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Why does apple not care about it's customers? you can't contact itunes when you buy an app that doesn't work or doesn't live up it what is advertised

I'm very frustrated. I bought Text'ndrive2 and it doesn't work but there is no way to contact Itunes. You always have to go throught Apple. There are many apps that do not live up the their adversitment. why doesn't Apple care about their customers?

Apple tests every single app for basic functionality (does it start up?, does it do what the developer says it will do?). Additionally, each and every app is checked to insure that the app doesn't do bad things (no malware) or use private, unpublished APIs. If any of these requirements aren't met, the app gets rejected. That doesn't mean some apps aren't worth paying for but that's up to the marketplace to decide.

Verizon does not care about loyal customers

I have been a very loyal customer to verizon for the past 6 years and now it is time for another upgrade. I go to verizon to upgrade my phone only to be told if i upgrade i will lose my unlimited data plan. I was grandfathered into the unlimited data plan but now i must give it up or keep my current phone. This is crap!! All i want to do is upgrade and keep my service. I was then told that i could in fact keep my plan IF i buy a REPLACEMENT phone. *** is going on here. Needless to say i am switching service providers, nobody else is offering an unlimited data plan but if i have to pay for one it wont be to Verizon!!

I have been with verizon for 10 years. When an employee told me it would be cheaper for me to get off the unlimited plan and go month to month i believed her. LIES!!!!! they want you to get off the unlimited plan. I pay 40 dollars extra a month for this plan when this employee said it was the right choice. I have been through the ringer with Verizon. For months i have been talking to people and trying to get back on the unlimited because their employee gave me false information, Many other Verizon reps said they would have never recommended that i get off the plan because i use the phone a lot for my job. I told the first woman i talked to about that but she reassured me that this was the right plan for me. I had one lady tell me because i am a loyal customer and i pay my bill on time every month that they would switch me back to the unlimited on the next billing cycle... MORE LIES!!!!! There is so much more that i dont even want to get into but this fact remains.... If you work for a company and i look to you for knowledge and advice of what i should do and you give me false and wrong answers then the company should be held responsible. But not Verizon. Now that they are a huge company it doesnt matter to them if they lose LOYAL customers because they will get more tomorrow. So i will be ending my time with them purely out of principle. I dont like being treated with disrespect like i have by this company. So Sprint it is!!! After i converted all my family to verizon. My sister, mom, dad, husbane...i kid you not. Now i need to convert them away from the greed, lies, disrespect, and horrible customer service.

Why doesn't ATT care about their Customers?

ATT doesn't care about Customers only their money! We deserve to be treated with respect not like we do not matter

I am sorry that you feel that way. Please be specific and tell us what AT&T did to you to make you feel this way. Perhaps we can guide you to the right person or department to help you with your problem.
I see you post on another thread.
https://forums.att.com/t5/U-verse-Account-Questions/48-Hours-NO-Service-because-ATT-accidentally-cancelled-my/m-p/4283718#M32373
I suggest you contact the AT&T U-verse Care team. You can contact them by clicking the link below:
https://forums.att.com/t5/notes/privatenotespage/tab/compose/note-to-user-id/2365485
Include the following information:
- Name
- Address
- Account number
- Phone number/email(to contact you if needed)
- The issue you're experiencing(detailed)
Look for a response in the little blue envelope on the upper right in two to three business days. I realize that this further delays you getting service again, but they can help.
__________________________________________________________________

Why does Adobe not care about its users?

I had tech support take over my computer but unwilling to help with adobe flash and reader because they are free. Keep in mind that I do have a trail CC, that I will not re-new. I waited for three hours, and when I asked if there was a cc similar that he could help me with all he said was no. I am in such despair.

If you need help wioth Flash Player and Acrobat Reader you should try the forums for them.
Flash Player:
Downloads: http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
Install Forum: http://forums.adobe.com/community/flashplayer/installing_flashplayer
Using Forum: http://forums.adobe.com/community/flashplayer/using_flashplayer
Acrobat Reader:
Download: Adobe - Adobe Reader download - All versions
Forums: Acrobat Reader

My Toshiba L305 - Both Buttons Broken (AGAIN) - TOSHIBA DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THEIR CUSTOMERS

So my left button broke (i didn't do anything) and so since it was under warranty, I was directed to a local authorized repair shop and they had to order the whole new keyboard that includes the little piece of junk plastic piece underneath the button. They fixed it the same day as I watched them and they did a perfect job. They also showed me the little cheap, litte, junky little piece of plastic that supported both buttons and that broke in my case. We both concluded that of course it would break again. Anyway, time goes by and the inside of the power piece broke off. So we go through the same routine. I go to the repair shop, they fix it and they say its common. In this case they even somehow strenghtened it so it would not happen again! So more time goes by (still under the year warranty as of Dec 21, 2009). Now, both my buttons again no longer work (big suprise). So since it is still under warranty, I call Toshiba but now they are saying they changed the rules since two Mondays ago and that I can no longer take it to that local authorized repair center (even though they rocked) but now I have to send in my laptop to Toshiba's official repair center. Needless to say, i wouldn't get my laptop back for 10 days. I run my business from my laptop so how on earth can I send it in? Anyway, I fought a lot with them on the phone and even got to the 'top' of the customer relations department, a frustrated lady named Mina, but she says there is nothing else they can do. No loaner, no replacement, can't get my money back, etc. The only thing I can do is send in my work laptop and not have it for 10 days. So what is ironic is I purchased a Toshiba laptop because I heard they were one of the best made computers. I now know that I was GREATLY misinformed. This is the worst situation I have ever seen in a computer business. The good news is that I am in IT and have lots of clients and so now I have the priviledge of telling my clients to run from Toshiba. I write all this for any of you out there who may have the same problem (because I am positive there will be many more since it is a tiny little piece of plastic underneath your buttons). It is clear to me that this is a defect.
My two big problems with this whole thing:
1. How can anyone expect someone to not have their laptop that they use to run a business for 10 days?
2. Why even have it fixed it if is just going to brake again?
3. So because of the 3 defects of this computer, now Toshiba is punishing me further!
If anyone is reading this who is thinking about buying a toshiba laptop, DON'T DO IT. Save yourself a lot of time, frustration and punishment from the company called, 'Toshiba'. Go with a Dell. Go with anything other than Toshiba. I will say it again: Tosbiba laptops are defective and Toshiba's policies show that they clearly don't care about the customers!

At least Toshiba is covering your repairs under Warranty. My ex-wife's new HP had one of the touchpad buttons break on her system and they want $400 bucks to fix it claiming that physical damage like that isn't covered.
If you don't post your COMPLETE model number it's very difficult to assist you. Please try to post in complete sentences with punctuation, capitals, and correct spelling. Toshiba does NOT provide any direct support in these forums. All support is User to User in their spare time.

Is there someone at Verizon that still cares about their customers and will help make this right??

I have spent hours on two phone calls and a chat session regarding a billing discrepancy that is THE FAULT OF VERIZON and still no final resolution. My bill is due in 3 days and I want this resolved now because I don't want to not pay a bill on time because it won't be corrected in time and then my credit rating will fall due to THE FAULT OF VERIZON. I have been working on this problem for OVER TWO WEEKS and TWICE have been told that it was all set and that billing was being told to credit my account, yet STILL NO CREDIT HAS HAPPENED. One rep gave me his email address so that I could follow up with him in case something went wrong with the credit. I have emailed him and GUESS WHAT? NO RESPONSE. I have been a loyal Verizon customer for over 15 years with all bills always PAID ON TIME and THIS IS HOW I GET TREATED?? NOT FAIR. This is so unlike me to write something like this in a forum, but I have had it after receiving THE WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE EVER. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO NOW TO GET HELP? Is no one at Verizon support HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR VERIZON MISTAKES?? A VERIZON representative listened to what I needed for business travel and they gave me the added feature that they assured me would be what I needed, and apparently it wasn't right. Is it my fault that a Verizon representative does not know the right answers to how their features work and now I am expected to pay OVER $300 EXTRA BECAUSE OF THEIR MISTAKE? When I take the advice of a Verizon rep I expect they know what they are talking about and that the advice is accurate. APPARENTLY THIS ISN'T TRUE.
Is there someone at Verizon that still cares about their customers and will help make this right??

After ANOTHER call I may be on track to resolving this. But WHY did it have to take several calls and chats over a two week period? WHY did I have to become a mean person to the representative on the phone to finally get this (partially) straightened out? Why does it need to come to that? I really don't want to have to get mean and get myself worked up just to get a billing problem straightened out that is VERIZON'S fault.
Verizon, please consider looking into your lack of proper customer support and make corrections. Even though this may be resolved, After 15 years of being a Verizon customer I will be considering another carrier when my contract runs out and all due to this horrible customer service experience.

Verizon doesn't care about its customers

I have been a customer of Verizons for a long time they used to be the best in customer service and meeting a persons needs, but this has gone away. They no longer care about there customers they only care about making more money off of us. My bill is currently around $250 per month I have 5 cell phones and 1 home phone connect on 1 plan, and I just added another line which they had me create a new account because I can only have 5 cell phones on 1 plan They said if I added more lines I would loose my unlimited data on 1 of my lines and my plan would increase as well. Nice way to gouge your longtime customers
my plan had
2500 nation wide family plan with unlimited texting
1 home phone connect for my house phone
2 smart phones
2 basic phones
1 basic phone with texting blocked due to being my mother inlaws phone
the end of February I called verizon about adding another line they said the best thing to do was take the basic phone off with no texting off of that plan and put it on its own plan and add the new line to the existing plan so I have the unlimited texting With these phones. So I said that sounds good and they did that I also asked the rep to make sure the phone that had no texting was still blocked. She said it was taken care of. I thought we were all good but I had a feeling it wouldn't be that easy because there's always a issue if you change something with verizon and this is there chance to stick it to you. The rep assure me my bill would be under $300 for both plans.
I Received my bill with them after this it was close to $1000 for adding a line and giving them more business. Wow great way to treat your loyal customers.
I Went to look at things on my Verizon account but I couldn't due to the rep who worked on my account messed my accounts up terribly I found out later
I called and asked to speak to a manager knowing that a regular rep wouldn't be able to handle this and I didn't want to explain this twice
The rep her name Tina said we had a royal mess here on the way things were set u. The way the rep set the accounts up couldn't be done so I had to put the phone line that had no texting back on the original plan and move the new line to its own plan then swap equipment then change both those phone numbers but tIna said she couldn't swap the numbers or she would have to charge me $30 per line to do this. She said I would have to do it on my verizon which I later did but came to find out that the rep who set the accounts up deleted the my verizon accounts so I had to call verizon again to change the numbers in which they waived the fee at that time due to not being able to get onto my verizon. Tina had to to put in several. Hundreds of dollars worth of credits due to the rep changing my accounts to every plan being on its own plan and several hundreds of dollars of text charges and me having to explain things in great detail, and having to let her know how things should have been done rather than how it was done. By the end Tina said she would give me a call on friday at 1 pm and I was talking to her on Tuesday. I even asked her if this was her just making a false promise here or if she was going to call me she said she guaranteed a call which I knew wouldn't happen and never did happen since there isn't any accountability for what there reps say. That day I asked Tina if I can record my calls with verizon she said no it was against the law but they could record it.the credits she said she put thru never were taken care of which I found out the following week because verizon called me threading to shut off my service if I didn't make a payment since I owed them so much.thankfully I wrote down all of the credits that were supposed to be put thru so the rep could put them thru at that time and I paid my balance and they assured me there wouldn't be any more issues.
then Monday April 28th comes along and I have no service due to verizon shutting off my services due to getting another bill for close to $1000
so I call verizon and ask for a manager again go thru the whole scenario and they say say I am paying for extra text charges and going over my 2500 minutes and they tell me I don't have my friends and family set up in which the original rep messed those up when they moved my accounts around. In the meantime my wife is unable to use her phone to call me so she calls verizon and verizon forces her to make a $500 payment or she won't be able to use her phone.
according to this rep I spoke to here on April 28th everything supposed to be taken care of but we will see . I ask how this can be taken up the later and they say you can talk to us
verizon says they want your business and they are the best out there then how could this confusing scenario happen.
I Have spent major hours dealing with this confusing scenario of me having to fight to get my credits I deserve and the stress this has caused my family
where is my compensation
I urge the upper management of verizon to look at how they treat there customers from there own reps not doing as they say they can
I hope your not confused a I am here

I am also a customer of many years. Recently I upgraded my phone, and service on my line. I did not need to, but the information I was given was all a LIE to get me out of my unlimited plan. I was told in order to upgrade I needed to switch to the 6gb max plan that included mobile hotspot at no additional cost. I asked repeatedly if it was no additional cost and for how long. I was told as long as I had the plan. I was then placed on hold for 15+ min where I hung up. I received a satisfaction survey call and let them know I was displeased with being put on hold when I'm trying to spend money. I then received a call from the original customer survice rep, where I asked again about the hotspot. I was then reassured that it was included, and finalized my order. The next day I received a call back on my survey and was reassured again that hotspot was included. I get my phone 3 days later, activate it, and it's not included. I WAS LIED TO... not once, but several times. When I called back they have no information stating that I was told that. Not only was I lied to, but now I'm being screwed with. I think it's time for verizon to go.

Verizon Doesn't Care About Their Customers!

I have been waiting for7 hours for Verizon service to show up for installation of my internet service. When I tried to verify if indeed they were coming, I spent an hour on the phone with their so called Custoner Service Department. I finally found someone who said that they were scheduled to be at my home today between the hours of 8-5. The one hour waiting period of trying to find out information is the tip of the iceberg for me with Verizon. There have been so many incidents of just plain old "we are the biggest and we really don't have to care about our customers". When I tried to find a place to go online and voice a complaint, I could not find a site to go to. Any help would be appreciated as I am certain that they will not even show up today. Thank you

vaughnstone wrote:
I have been waiting for7 hours for Verizon service to show up for installation of my internet service. When I tried to verify if indeed they were coming, I spent an hour on the phone with their so called Custoner Service Department. I finally found someone who said that they were scheduled to be at my home today between the hours of 8-5. The one hour waiting period of trying to find out information is the tip of the iceberg for me with Verizon. There have been so many incidents of just plain old "we are the biggest and we really don't have to care about our customers". When I tried to find a place to go online and voice a complaint, I could not find a site to go to. Any help would be appreciated as I am certain that they will not even show up today. Thank you
Did they show up?

HT5622 Why does my credit car decline when I'm trying to review my credit card details? I'm trying to creat and finish my apple login but it keeps saying declined. Does Apple charge credit cards just for registering a credit card??

Why does my credit car decline when I'm trying to review my credit card details? I'm trying to creat and finish my apple login but it keeps saying declined. Does Apple charge credit cards just for registering a credit card??

Just to add to AnaMusic's list:
Does Apple charge credit cards just for registering a credit card??
Yes, Apple will validate the credit card, when you are setting up the account information for an Apple ID. The credit card must be valid in the country of the store, that you are trying to buy from. And the card you are using must neither be blocked by the issuer of the card nor by the Apple for store services.
The error message you are citing is misleading: The error message could either mean
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Why does my iPad settings,about show I have photos when my photo app says I have none?

Why does my iPad settings,about show I have photos when my photo app says I have none?

After the most recent iOS update there is a problem with phantom photos.
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HT204266 Why does only one headphone work when i listen to music? I have to hold the base of the cord in a certain position for it to work, it does this with all headphones i try, what do i do?

Why does only one headphone work when i listen to music? I have to hold the base of the cord in a certain position for it to work, it does this with all headphones i try, what do i have to do?

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Creative Cloud - Does Adobe REALLY Care About Customers?

I hope the staff at Adobe are reading these forum posts.
First question: the following quote
As far as the future of CS applications, in his Adobe MAX keynote, David Wadhwani said, 'We have no plans' to continue perpetual licenses. We are not ruling that out in the future.
Just exactly what is meant by this statement? Is Adobe already looking for a back door if the Create Cloud doesn't pan out? I really would like to know what this means. It sounds ominous and dubious and it sends mixed messages.
As far as the Creative Cloud model goes, is this really a benefit to your customers? I can see it might make Adobe a lot of money (if you don't lose a vast majority of your customer base) but how does it really benefit your customers? Your loyal customers? The customers that made you the rich company that you are today.
Speaking for myself, I do not use all the programs that will be available in the cloud on a regular basis. During the summer when I don't have classes, I don't use some programs at all. But I have to keep paying whether I use them or not. If I stop paying, I will lose access to my software. How is that a good thing for me? For the majority of your customers? You think because we pay a monthly fee that most people won't equate that we are having to fork over more than $300 a year? In some cases over $600 a year. And it never stops. How is that good for the majority of your customers?
Do I really need to have the latest software constantly? No, I don't. But you are now forcing the issue whether I want it or not. Forcing your customer to do something does not seem like you really care about me. About us.
What about my students? We have hundreds of students that go through our Adobe software classes each semester. Every student told me they would not go with the Cloud, either because they don't have the money or they were going to protest Adobe's "money grabbing scheme" (one student's actual quote). The students sure don't think Adobe cares about them. If the students stop taking the classes because of the software access, then we start cutting sections. Does Adobe care about that? I'm sure no, but think about those hundreds of students each semester that will no longer be learning to use Adobe software.
Adobe is putting a stranglehold on its customers and the customers are going to say enough is enough. Perhaps new software (open source?) will emerge to take the place of Adobe. Perhaps people using InDesign will go back to QuarkXPress. Perhaps enough of these former Adobe customers will force Adobe to check their hubris and greed at the door. But maybe not. The world will move on, one way or another.
One thing I am supremely sure about is Adobe has got it really, really wrong on the Creative Cloud strategy.
BTW, you might want to read the following link entitled Adobe Creative Cloud: Lopsided Legal Agreement. It is not pretty:
http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2013/20130508_1a-Adobe-legal-agreement.html

Nice sentiments, could not agree more.
xIDx wrote:
What about my students? We have hundreds of students that go through our Adobe software classes each semester. Every student told me they would not go with the Cloud, either because they don't have the money or they were going to protest Adobe's "money grabbing scheme" (one student's actual quote). The students sure don't think Adobe cares about them.
I hope this occurs across the globe with students ("potential" future Adobe customers) whom may be hindered in their monetary abilities but not in seeing the truth towards what it being placed upon them by Adobe concerning the Cloud mirage. This is a great opportunity for educators to truly educate their students about Adobe.
xIDx wrote:
One thing I am supremely sure about is Adobe has got it really, really wrong on the Creative Cloud strategy.
BTW, you might want to read the following link entitled Adobe Creative Cloud: Lopsided Legal Agreement. It is not pretty:
http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2013/20130508_1a-Adobe-legal-agree ment.html
Great link!

Does creative care about it customers

It would appear that Creative does not care that most customers do not have any idea about the firmware to player issue. No referance material or software is included with the Zen micro. The website has little if any instruction. I have spent, to date, 8hrs. searching and reinstalling firmware, updates, drivers to come to the conclusion that Creative, who at this time are not able to be contacted because it's the weekend, either does not care about it's customers or does not know how to support thier products properly.
I have other things to do than sit at the computer. This Creative Zen micro was to be enjoyed but I'm not enjoying it at all.
Help needed is in post from "rulezbecca".

I did not post "rulezbecca" just replied to it. I have the same problem though.
I posted this to get the attention of, maybe, a Creative tech who might be reading some of the posts.
I have upgraded most of the computer software, firmware, hardware, and other periferals at some time or another with out this much trouble.
The main problem is that after part of the firmware has been loaded the micro hangs and the computer wants me to install a driver so it can communicate with the micro via the USB port, that same port it was using just prior to do the firmware download. Now the micro can not connect via the USB port in this computer or any other computer I try.
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