Why doesn't iTunes use track names on burned cd's instead of querying Gracenote?

I run a recording studio and burn cd's of original music for clients. Sometimes when those clients open their cd in itunes, titles and artist names with no connection whatsoever to their music are displayed. Why does itunes not just use the titles burned with the cd instead of automatically querying Gracenote and arbitrarily assigning incorrect titles and artists to the disc? I have even imported such a disc into itunes, changed the titles and artist name, created a new playlist with those songs, and burned a disc from that corrected playlist, only to have it come up wrong again when the new disc is opened in itunes. This needs to be fixed. Some of those clients use the burned discs as booking demos, and having another artist's name and song titles come up causes confusion and embarassment.

ed2345,
No need for you to be an a-hole.
Fair enough, although you are better off getting that feedback from me than from one of your clients who puts 2 and 2 together.
I clearly stated that quite often these were unfinished projects, often with working titles that may or may not be the final title.
What you "clearly stated" is that your clients are having "confusion and embarassment." Is that not sufficient for you to get those discs into the database?
....if the names haven't changed will Gracenote accept a submission of the same titles but different running times from the same artist and delete the old one?
If the running times are different, it will look like a different CD to Gracenote. If the CD is not the final version, you should append its title with "Demo" or "Work in Progress" or a similar indication that will distinguish it from the final "real" version.
You may have a misimpression about Gracenote. Yes, they are authoritative about commercial CDs, but they have also opened their DB for submissions to any hobbyist with iTunes and a burner. They have tons of such things in their database. There is absolutely no need for you to avoid putting your stuff in there. In fact, since iTunes cannot read CD Text, there is currently no way other than Gracenote to solve the iTunes problem which brought you to this Forum.

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