Why GL account sometimes requires Cost center sometimes Profit center?
Hi,
We have GL xxxxxxx and was created for 2 cocodes A and B. This GL account is a Balance Sheet Account <Prepaid Expense>.
Cocode A has FSG which requires above GL a Cost Center.
Cocode B has FSG which requires same GL a Profit Center?
Can you shed me some lights why do business do that? Is it a proper way? Or it depends on Business if they require Pctr or Ctr?
Hi ,
If it is a B/S type nature , then there would be no requirement of Cost center , why is the system asking for the same ?
Only in case of cost elements ( P & L type accounts ) you require cost objects like cost center , internal order or WBS element to be provided as input , else there is no need .
Please check the settings in 3KEH and look for the account in question , secondly also check that have you activated any validation or substitution for GL accounts .
moreover check the settings for fields status group in OB41 and OBC4 .
Regards ,
Dewang.
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Edited by: Tran Binh Minh on Sep 5, 2008 10:38 AMHi Tran,
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We are implementing ECC 6.0 and will have FI PCA.
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Cost Center and Profit Center Planning.
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wherever plan data had revised e.g for cost element Salaries they have updated 100000 Planning cost in the month of Aug, 07. In the month of Oct, 07 increased 5% i.e.5000. In cost center line items details i found 2 documents for Rs.100000/- and Rs.5000/- But in Profit Center Line Items i am getting only Rs.5000/- Value Document.
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I tried to run the transaction code 1ke0. i have selected the cost object is Cost Center, version and had given Cost Center Parameter in development and quality clients and executed the same.By this time already existing data either deleting/ riversing and creating new documents fully except manually changed data in profit center through 7ke1.
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1.Upto what extent it will work.
2.will it be possible to transfer data from cost center to profit center only missing documents which are available in cost center, without disturbing of existing data in profit center.
3.suppose if i done this activity, there are some data which was already transferred from other cost objects like internatl orders & wbs elements to Profit Center. will the data get disturbed (deleted/riversed).
Pls suggest me the wiseful way to solve theHi
Try This
BAPI_COSTCENTER_CREATEMULTIPLE
BAPI_COSTCENTERGROUP_CREATE
BAPI_PROFITCENTER_CREATE
BAPI_PROFITCENTERGRP_CREATE.
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Cost center report,Profit center report
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Pls tell me what are the reports availble in ecc6 for cost center & profit center. Pls give T.Code for report.
In general for controlling reports are standard or we have to customise the report.
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avudaiappanDear Avudaiappan,
Cost Center:
KSB9 - Planning Report: Cost Centers
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S_ALR_87010786 Profit Center Report
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1. I have to create new GLs in Dev, Now i have to transport the new GL to Quality and Production. As per my knowledge, Master data has to created in DEV,Quality and Production.
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Please suggest how to reduce this manually process.
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Sridhar ReddyHi ,
Master data is to be created in diffrent clients as it is a non transportable object .
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Secondly OKB9 is a transportable object , so i dont feel there should be an issue in adding it to a transportable object .
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