Why have Nokia dropped support for the 808?

It never gets anything, still waiting for NFC payment, Wifi is still borked with no 5ghrz support even tho it was advertised, still waiting for browser updates to make it useful, gets nothing they're putting into their Lumia series.
Why release a phone to just ditch it?
Edit: Oh yeah and the camera is still **bleep** for night time shots, the right hand side of the picture always has this lighter area ruining it.
Not my pictures but mine does the same thing...
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/808​-920/808-car.jpg
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/808​-920/808-pumpkin.jpg
920: 
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/808​-920/920-pumpkin.jpg
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/808​-920/920-car.jpg
So far every picture I've seen online his this blob of light, yet the 920 is fine. So it isn't just my phone :\

miffywiffy wrote:
It never gets anything, still waiting for NFC payment, Wifi is still borked with no 5ghrz support even tho it was advertised, still waiting for browser updates to make it useful, gets nothing they're putting into their Lumia series.
Why release a phone to just ditch it?
Edit: Oh yeah and the camera is still **bleep** for night time shots, the right hand side of the picture always has this lighter area ruining it.
Not my pictures but mine does the same thing...
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/808​-920/808-car.jpg
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/808​-920/808-pumpkin.jpg
920: 
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/808​-920/920-pumpkin.jpg
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/808​-920/920-car.jpg
So far every picture I've seen online his this blob of light, yet the 920 is fine. So it isn't just my phone :\
Are you crazy? The 808's pictures are better. Sharper no overzealus coloursmearing, no weird edge-sharpening.
In fact the only positive about the 920 is its low-light "enlightenment" . But this unfortunately gives rather unatural looking photo's. 
The pictures that you linked to were shot in pitch black outside and Steve clearly pointed out that the scenes depicted were deliberately choosen to asure the 920 would be better. They were to demonstrate the difference of the low-light enhancing technology o/t 920. There's no reason to show them here to demonstrate a malfunctioning camera-module. In fact I can show you pictures that show the superiority o/t 808 (even from that same site). 
e.g.
Lumia 920  http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/big​shoot/920church.jpg
808PV   http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/big​shoot/808church.jpg
Lumia 920 http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/big​shoot/920tesco.jpg
808PV http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/big​shoot/808tesco.jpg
On these 2 examples you clearly see that the 808PV is better then the 920 (and the last scene should have been the 920's territory and yet it fails miserable)
Also the worse experience with software upgrades also happens on Lumia users. Some have the feeling that their camera's perform worse after their latest upgrade. It seems Nokia still FU this process just as any other manufacturer does. 
Or do you really think that Xperia users (or Galaxy users or HTC users) have different experiences? the Apple fora are filled with people unhappy about the things that got broken after their last update.
I am glad that Nokia still delivers (minor) updates. I too would like to see Nokia give power users more options instead of removing them. Just like the awfull light grey theme. They should have included BOTH dark and light themes to give us CHOICE! The only thing we can do is ASK Nokia to release the dark theme as a seperate product/download. Or make a suitable theme ourselves. ;-)
the same with all the other options. In fact IMHO Wifi is NOT BORKED, I've never seen them advertize 5Ghz band and as for the browser, it IS very usefull. It's the only one with (limited) Flash support build in (Android has removed Flash support in later builds so who are you to complain) and is quite fast (just disable javascript to make it as fast as the Iphone 4S). That website creators can't build proper websites anymore without stupid javascript is not Nokia's fault, complain to the site-maintainers. 
And as for Nokia's Lumia range of devices... they still can't do halve of what a N8 can do, even WITH a "borked" Belle Refresh...

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    >>
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    >> (à propos, quelle est votre fonction chez adobe ? Puis-je
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