Why is a hub needed for ichat a/v locally?

If I'm not mistaken it's currently not possible to create a network by having all nodes except one join the other using adhoc networks and for that machine to act as a router. Why is this the case?
Why do I need a router to do ichat a/v b/w computers locally?
Back in the days a machine could emulate a basestation correct?

Hi Robert,
I have two Macs but they are through a Routing modem.
I also run Little Snitch on one of them and have not seen iChat call SNATMAP when using Bonjour.
I have the modem set to use UPnP. The Mac Firewall is not on but does list the Bonjour ports (along with AV and Jabber).
The Bonjour ports are 5298 on TCP and 5297, 5298, 5353 on UDP
It is the 5353 that most people miss as it is not one of the Bonjour /iChat presets in the Mac Firewall.
I do have my DNS servers fro my ISP listed on both the modem and my computers.
5:05 PM Sunday; February 25, 2007

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