Why Is Keeping Correct TIME in Arch Such A PITA?

Why has this happened again. Why is keeping correct time in Arch such a constant struggle and general pain in the ass?
My latest Ubuntu install doesn't even use ntp or openntpd, and never looses track of time. It keeps correct time running in an
Arch Vbox along with most other virtual Linux distros.
Does this have to be this way. I could care less if my time is off by a min or so, but to be off 10min every 2-3 days is not good.
It seems the info in the wiki is ether obsolete or inaccurate and or overly complex.....with too many....some people do this....you may want to try that....
If I was a Linux GURU, I'd figure this problem out and correct/update the wiki......but since I'm not, and can't...
I have no choice but to beg for help, Please!!
This is the problem again!!!
[jeff@Arch2009p2 ~]$ ntpq -p
No association ID's returned
Last edited by jeff story (2009-12-02 22:45:58)

Thanks for the help and patience Rookie.
I guess I am kinda guilty in not wanting to put much into "just want to see close to the correct time on my desktop" problem!!!
I tend to prioritize the time I spend on my new Linux hobby by what I find interesting and or FUN.....
To be honest, this time issue has been neither, and is something I'd like to find a quick fix, and move on.
I haven't spent much/any time actually "studying" it....my bad!!
And no, I didn't just randomly guess 4 numbers between 0 and 255, put them together with decimal points, and hope for the best....
I used my random time server IP address generating algorithm ....just kiddn!!
I got them from my ntpq -p output (#8 post above) that was when ntp was working.
My ntp.log file:
8 Dec 00:00:47 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 00:06:10 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 00:08:17 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.958317 s
8 Dec 00:13:01 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 00:23:40 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.960090 s
8 Dec 00:27:59 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 00:33:21 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 00:38:42 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.951408 s
8 Dec 00:45:30 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 00:48:24 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 00:54:22 ntpd[1668]: time reset +2.034356 s
8 Dec 01:00:26 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 01:08:57 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 01:10:28 ntpd[1668]: time reset +2.060369 s
8 Dec 01:16:26 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 01:20:45 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 01:26:26 ntpd[1668]: no servers reachable
8 Dec 01:31:32 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 01:31:34 ntpd[1668]: time reset +2.768349 s
8 Dec 01:38:23 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 01:47:01 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 01:47:03 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.893794 s
8 Dec 01:58:09 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 01:58:14 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 01:58:48 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 02:02:31 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.940767 s
8 Dec 02:08:04 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 02:12:17 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 02:18:14 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.977182 s
8 Dec 02:22:57 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 02:28:14 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 02:34:06 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.986197 s
8 Dec 02:39:11 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 02:42:50 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 02:50:01 ntpd[1668]: time reset +2.012326 s
8 Dec 02:54:36 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 02:57:59 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 03:05:31 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.900115 s
8 Dec 03:15:00 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 03:16:03 ntpd[1668]: no servers reachable
8 Dec 03:16:03 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 03:21:27 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.951422 s
8 Dec 03:27:49 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 03:36:30 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.871193 s
8 Dec 03:42:13 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 03:51:38 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.902758 s
8 Dec 04:00:30 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 04:01:18 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 206.55.70.42, stratum 2
8 Dec 04:03:35 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 04:06:42 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 04:07:03 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.878555 s
8 Dec 04:11:43 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 04:14:38 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 04:17:21 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 04:22:09 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.820429 s
8 Dec 04:26:44 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 04:37:33 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.884735 s
8 Dec 04:41:59 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 04:52:49 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.904257 s
8 Dec 05:01:26 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 05:02:14 ntpd[1668]: no servers reachable
8 Dec 05:02:18 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 05:08:45 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.934852 s
8 Dec 05:15:36 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 05:24:32 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.989070 s
8 Dec 05:33:32 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 05:35:41 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 05:39:52 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.848521 s
8 Dec 05:45:38 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 05:49:53 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 05:55:34 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 05:55:36 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.964663 s
8 Dec 06:00:30 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 06:10:38 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.842886 s
8 Dec 06:15:04 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 06:25:49 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.844650 s
8 Dec 06:31:03 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 06:41:32 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.951328 s
8 Dec 06:48:37 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 06:56:54 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.887304 s
8 Dec 07:01:44 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 07:12:27 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.920628 s
8 Dec 07:18:13 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 07:28:29 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.980813 s
8 Dec 07:33:42 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 07:38:39 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 07:43:49 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.881431 s
8 Dec 07:50:03 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 07:53:34 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 07:59:46 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.965866 s
8 Dec 08:04:45 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 08:08:26 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 08:15:38 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.909397 s
8 Dec 08:21:58 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 08:31:06 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.875074 s
8 Dec 08:37:27 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 08:41:17 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 08:45:00 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 08:46:43 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.901449 s
8 Dec 08:51:02 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 08:56:23 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 09:02:11 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.913327 s
8 Dec 09:07:47 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 09:11:36 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 09:17:35 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.879629 s
8 Dec 09:26:08 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 09:28:47 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 09:33:41 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.955124 s
8 Dec 09:39:45 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 09:43:00 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 09:49:32 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.956294 s
8 Dec 09:53:52 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 09:58:09 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 10:05:09 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.870515 s
8 Dec 10:10:46 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 10:20:30 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 10:20:56 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.943897 s
8 Dec 10:26:15 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 10:31:36 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 10:36:01 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.847729 s
8 Dec 10:40:58 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 10:51:45 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.889479 s
8 Dec 10:57:04 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 11:01:49 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 11:06:50 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.839236 s
8 Dec 11:14:02 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 11:19:16 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 11:22:41 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.968947 s
8 Dec 11:27:02 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 11:32:23 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 11:38:41 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.903414 s
8 Dec 11:47:32 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 11:54:16 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.915699 s
8 Dec 11:59:17 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 12:04:31 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 12:10:06 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.846985 s
8 Dec 12:15:07 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 12:20:32 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 12:25:53 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.985553 s
8 Dec 12:32:53 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 12:41:32 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.929433 s
8 Dec 12:46:47 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 12:57:15 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.946246 s
8 Dec 13:02:05 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 13:07:30 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 13:13:10 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.927305 s
8 Dec 13:19:04 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 13:28:49 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 13:29:15 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.972395 s
8 Dec 13:34:22 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 13:39:47 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.39.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 13:44:19 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.838454 s
8 Dec 13:48:51 ntpd[1668]: synchronized to 128.105.37.11, stratum 2
8 Dec 13:59:42 ntpd[1668]: time reset +1.850518 s
8 Dec 14:06:32 ntpd[1668]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
8 Dec 14:07:25 ntpd[1609]: signal_no_reset: signal 17 had flags 4000000
8 Dec 14:09:31 ntpd[1609]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
8 Dec 14:09:31 ntpd[1608]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
8 Dec 14:10:32 ntpd[1622]: signal_no_reset: signal 17 had flags 4000000
8 Dec 14:10:59 ntpd[1621]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
8 Dec 14:10:59 ntpd[1622]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
8 Dec 14:11:55 ntpd[1591]: signal_no_reset: signal 17 had flags 4000000
8 Dec 14:19:56 ntpd[1659]: signal_no_reset: signal 17 had flags 4000000
8 Dec 14:21:01 ntpd[1657]: Listening on interface #4 eth0, fe80::224:8cff:febc:ccee#123 Enabled
8 Dec 14:21:01 ntpd[1657]: Listening on interface #5 eth0, 192.168.2.2#123 Enabled
8 Dec 14:21:01 ntpd[1657]: new interface(s) found: waking up resolver
9 Dec 01:21:04 ntpd[1657]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
9 Dec 01:25:33 ntpd[1649]: signal_no_reset: signal 17 had flags 4000000
9 Dec 01:27:42 ntpd[1649]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
9 Dec 01:27:42 ntpd[1648]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
9 Dec 01:28:33 ntpd[1600]: signal_no_reset: signal 17 had flags 4000000
9 Dec 01:32:01 ntpd[1629]: signal_no_reset: signal 17 had flags 4000000
9 Dec 01:32:01 ntpd[1628]: bind() fd 20, family AF_INET6, port 123, scope 2, addr fe80::224:8cff:febc:ccee, mcast=0 flags=0x11 fails: Cannot assign requested address
9 Dec 01:32:01 ntpd[1628]: unable to create socket on eth0 (5) for fe80::224:8cff:febc:ccee#123
9 Dec 01:32:01 ntpd[1628]: failed to initialize interface for address fe80::224:8cff:febc:ccee
ntpq -p
Last edited by jeff story (2009-12-10 10:07:18)

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