Why Lightroom printing is really bad

Here is my setup:
- Apple with 10.4.9
- Lightroom 1.2
- Photoshop CS3
- Spyder calibrated monitor
- HiTi 641PS dye sublimation printer with calibrated profile
Here is what I have done:
- created a tiff with foreground color black and printed that with Lightroom and Photoshop
Here is what I get:
- Printed with Photoshop with the color profile: probably as black as the printer can manage
- Printed with Lightroom with same color profile, same rendering intent, printer color management switched off: some muddy blue gray
- Printed with Lightroom but colors managed by printer: still blue but a lot darker
Yes, I checked both page setup and print setting in Lightroom but alas. The same blue gray haze also shows up in normal photos when black is intended, but by using this test the differences clearly show up.
So, anyone any clue why Lightroom fails miserably in this small test??? But better, what can I do about it? I know that this topic has been discussed a zillion times in this forum, and that the first reaction usually is: "you must have done something wrong with your color setup", but I hope the setup described above excludes that assumption.
Rgds,
Tom

Jeff,
I agree the HiTi is not a very commonly known printer. In fact I think it was one of the first affordable dye sublimation printers a couple of years back (2002). The reason I bought this one were the positive reviews it got on Steve's digicam page.
The printer comes with a standard profile, but I also had one based on printed test cards.
And yes, it does come with a manual which explains how ton install on MacOS. It is even 10 pages long, which I consider way too much for any piece of Mac SW, but at least they try... Wrt to your question system driver versus Photoshop plugin, I can only tell it shows up as a normal printer and it installs stuff (.plugin) in Library/Printers/HiTi.
Coming back to the real subject, from this thread I gather the following opinions:
- "You must have done something wrong", even though it was nicely packed into a reference to another thread on this forum
- the Apple printing system is brain dead
- "It is running fine on my system, but I have this other problem I want to talk about..."
Still no hint of an explanation why Photoshop and Lightroom print differently with exactly the same settings. Well, maybe the remark on double color management, but then that would still indicate a difference between PS and LR, would it not?
Tom

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