Why no removeable disk mode on Zen Tou

I'm not really complaining, just curious. The Zen micro has the removeable disc mode that allows it to be used like a normal external dri've. Why not have the same option for the Zen Touch? Wouldn't it just require a little bit of extra software? Or is there something inherent in the Zen Touch that would prohibit that sort of thing?
I've read the thread at nomadness, and I know all about how using it as a hard dri've disables the music library, but why not simply give folks the option of switching modes? Obviously, it works on the Micro
Cameron

My guess is resources coupled with competition.
Firstly it would be wonderful if all the various wishes were incorporated into a player, but there simply isn't enough resources available.
Secondly Creative seem to be upping the ante against Apple et al, so they have tried very hard with the Micro firmware to make it feature rich.
I think they would do well to try and add these features into older players as it would substantially increase Customer loyalty, something that can do a lot for attracting other Customers.

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I am hoping for some frank and practical advice from the Mac Gurus.
The background is that I am about a year and a half into a move to mac from a "PC" (really Windows XP on Boot Camp on my Mac Pro) and I now have both the MacPro running Snow Leopard and the MacBookPro running Snow Leopard.
I had a heck of a time with permissions and other assorted complications in trying to get my data MOVED from the PC environment and now I am finding that I still have assorted issues (various errors and permissions and file in use etc) in MOVING data from the MBP to the MacPro. My routine now is to COPY data from one machine to the other machine and then to go back and DELETE the folder on the originating computer. I do this because if I force a move by holding the option key down, I find that I am a total and complete loss as to WHAT has been moved and what has not been moved and if the folder that was being moved has multiple SUB-FOLDERS with files in them it is almost impossible for me to determine how to recover from this - effectively - crash. Previous advice has been to simply do an Undo but this is impractical in the sense that I cannot stop my day simply because I want to move a folder that will take a couple of minutes.
Also, I am now trying to make sure that I PLUGIN to Ethernet and TURN OFF the Wifi in order to make sure that I am moving data via Ethernet.
To be honest the decision to COPY data is a new one and I am not sure how effective this is going to be but I have been running into a lot of errors when I was force moving data. This always seemed to me to be a much "cleaner" way to do this since it meant I was not open to the possibility of making a mistake as to what had been moved already (in a hectic day or with a long time for a copy of data) and it also seemed to me to be a good check that everything had been copy-moved since the computer was deleting the originating folder, instead of my doing it manually.
Anyway, long story short -
1. Are there any "cleaner upper routines' that I should be running on these two machines to prevent these various errors and/or to check that everything on each machine is copascetic?
2. /When/ do you decide to boot into Disk Mode and do you basically check the size of your large folders before Moving or Copying Data in order to do this? I assume you can only use target disk mode in firewire is that right?
3. How do folks work in a large networked office with big amounts of data moving around? I mean, is my experience typical and if not, why am I having such difficulty with this?
Thanks for any advice

See mount section in 1st linked article.
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Is Shuffle a default mode on Zen Tou

Hi,
I just bought a Zen Touch, which I really like so far. One issue I was wondering about was that it seems each time I start up the Zen, it automatically goes into shuffle play mode, even though it was in normal play mode when the device was turned off. I would prefer it would start in normal play mode. Is this just the way it is, or do I have some control over it's startup?
Also, it has firmware v.0.03. Thanks

rwjack wrote:
I may have hit Random at one time, but should it stay after a restart? Do I need to reset?
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I have a 2010 Macbook Pro, and a 2013 iMac. I connected the Macbook pro with the firewire cable to the iMac, and enabled target disk mode on the laptop. (It is successful because I see the hard drive appear on the iMac desktop.
I restart the iMac and hold 'option' to show the hard drive list, and sure enough the Mac Book Pro hard drive appears. I select it, and this lovely icon greets me.
From this point, I have no idea what to do.
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Then, clone the clone back to the internal drive, and try to start up from it. If there was an underlying hardware problem on the hard drive, this will not fix it. But if it was just data corruption at the volume level, that iMac G4 may still have some life left.

Listening to songs in the removeable disk for zen mi

I put a few albums onto my removeable disk and I don't know to actually listen to them on the Zen Micro. I go to my tracks but they are not there.
Thank You.

The "removable dri've partition" is accessible only from a PC.
The place you put your songs is not for songs, it is for data.
Make sure not to transfer songs (that you want to be able to listen to) into the data section.
Use mediasource (or whatever) and move them to the correct area and you will be able to access them.

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As all my old start up disks are long gone I went online and followed advice to wipe it remotely. I connected the G3 via FireWire to my 15" MacBook Pro (late 2008, running OSX Lion 10.7.5) and restarted the G3 in Target Disk Mode. I opened Disk Utility, selected the drive (not the iMac partition), selected Erase, renamed the drive and chosen the 7 pass option. And waited...
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Why is it in Disk Mode?

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I plugged it into my computer and nothing works. I can't even turn it off!
How can I fix my iPod so it can actually function?

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so when i turn of my ipod its always stuck on the apple logo.Ive tried disk mode and it still doesnt work.Also it isnt reconized on itunes so i need help badly

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DiskWarrior.
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Firstly, let me lay out my situation. I have an old MacBook Pro (2,2) with a broken disk drive. It was dropped in its youth and can no longer read from or write to CDs or DVDs of any kind. I have just recently bought a new MacBook Pro to replace it (6,2) and am currently trying to convert the old computer into an XP machine through Boot Camp. I'd like to be able to do so without having to buy an external disk drive.
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Windows XP will only install from the optical drive. Target Disk Mode does not work with Windows volumes. Windows will not install from any external device.

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