WHY No Vcore voltage Offsets?

How the heck can there not be Vcore offsets in any MSI Z77 motherboards? I wish I would have known this prior to purchasing a Z77A GD80 :( Are there ANY plans to include Vcore offsets in a future bios update?

I totally love this MPower board, it looks great, clocks great, boots mega fast, no issues whatsoever, I'm gonna try 4.9GHz and then 5GHz on Air next... lol
Quote from: Froggy Gremlin on 20-October-12, 05:43:50
With your influence, and the number of users requesting it, I would think MSI HQ would listen to you and the users. They should have plenty of time to at least incorporate the offset feature in the new Haswell LGA 1150 platform.
Yeah hopefully, it's not a major issue really, I just like to save energy wherever I can, this 2500K has a VID of 1.411v @ 4.8GHz, yet it's totally stable at 1.32v, so I can't just use Auto voltage as it will pump too many volts through it lol
Someone mentioned this on overclock.net >> http://www.overclock.net/t/1302731/official-msi-z77-mpower-owners-club-all-things-mpower/450Quote from: CL3P20
but you can set voltage for your 'turbo multi' ... which is effectively the same thing is it not?
ie - set vcore at 1.1v for 4ghz.. and set 1.25v for 4.6ghz multi.. that should act in the same fashion as a typical "offset voltage" would.. no?
I've just been playing around with setting Turbos to x48 but I cannot make the voltage drop down when at x16 with EIST, does anyone know what he is on about he's seems like he knows what he's on about from his previous good posts he's made, but he's not online at the moment lol.

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CPU(s)
Number of CPUs   1
Name   AMD Athlon XP
Code Name   Thoroughbred
Specification   AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Family / Model / Stepping   6 8 1
Extended Family / Model   7 8
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Clock multiplier   x 15.0
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L1 Data Cache   64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache   64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache   256 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed   2004.6 MHz (Full)
L2 Location   On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic   yes
L2 Bus Width   64 bits
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Motherboard manufacturer   MSI
Motherboard model   MS-6590, 2.0
BIOS vendor   American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS revision   Version 07.00T
BIOS release date   04/02/01
Chipset   VIA KT600 rev. 80
Southbridge   VIA VT8237 rev. 00
Sensor chip   Winbond W83697HF
Graphic Interface   AGP
AGP Status   enabled, rev. 3.5
AGP Data Transfer Rate   8x
AGP Max Rate   8x
AGP Side Band Addressing   supported, enabled
AGP Aperture Size   16 MBytes
Memory
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DRAM Size   1024 MBytes
DRAM Frequency   133.6 MHz
FSB:DRAM   1:1
DRAM Interleave   4-way
CAS# Latency   2.5 clocks
RAS# to CAS#   3 clocks
RAS# Precharge   3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS)   6 clocks
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Module 1   Kingston DDR-SDRAM PC2100 - 512 MBytes
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I honestly wish the mobo had manual vcore control.
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"Cpu Voltage" it is either Auto (Grey) or increasing the voltage in increments.
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I didn't increase it +.303, I was only specifying the limit of what it would allow me to change.
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Failed OCCT during a 2hr test.
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Originally posted by balewolf
Raising your Vcore does not give you more power
lmao voltage is power to the cpu raise it is force fed more their for it can go to a higher clock speed. peewee2004 check your temps i thk some go up to 1.8 aslong as the temps stay under control.
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