Why 'preserve numbers' for cmyk policy

Hello,
I am at a loss why Adobe InDesign CS3 advises you to use the setting 'Preserve numbers (ignore linked profiles)' in 'Color Management policies' as a safe cmyk-workflow. Wouldn't it be more logical to 'Preserve embedded profiles'? This way your InDesign document has its own working space profile embedded for contents created in the document itself and it would contain the profiles of placed content. This way nothing can go wrong (well, nothing...).
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Johan

There are other reasons that "Safe-CMYK" preserves numbers. Many people do their color management by converting to the correct CMYK profile in Photoshop, before an image gets to InDesign. They do not want these CMYK values changed when the image is output. Others apply device link profiles at the RIP, which occurs AFTER being output. These people also want InDesign to output the CMYK values that they started with
Although color management is a wonderful thing, let's not forget that most printers still want "final" CMYK files. Most printers are not going to re-separate or re-purpose your CMYK files, so you really don't want to do it when you are proofing.
If everyone was on-board with color management, and everyone embedded profiles in their images, and every printer respected those profiles, then "Safe-CMYK" would not be necessary. But then, if everyone were on-board with color management, no one would even have to save out CMYK images - you would just use RGB images and have the conversion happen upon output. That would ultimately yield the best results. So the question really isn't "why is there a safe-CMYK workflow?", but "why are you saving your images in CMYK in the first place?" You are saving CMYK images because that is what the printer or pub has requested, and those exact CMYK seps are what they are going to use.
So there really are a lot of reasons you might want InDesign to ignore profiles and just output the CMYK values that were brought in. Will this yield the color appearance you have specified in your profile? Maybe not, but it will be a proof of the CMYK numbers you started with, which are quite likely what are going to press.
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