Why provide fonts that can't be used??

Adobe provided a huge list of fonts in InDesign CS4, but several are not able to be embedded when used because of licensing restrictions.
Why did Adobe, in its infinite wisdom, provide fonts that can't be reproduced on the page?
Along that same thought, how do I avoid discovering at the printing phase that the font I selected cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions?
I'm not trying to use fonts that are not licensed. I'm trying to use fonts that Adobe provided with my CS4 "premium" software.
Methinks that, like everything else these days, Adobe is just another crappy company that sells people expensive programs and fails to provide adequate support. Thanks Adobe...
Jason in Seattle

i Jeff,
I think that your lack of technical comprehension of what's going on "underneath the hood" is causing you to conflate technical problems with legal ones.
I don't recall this being an issue for me prior to CS4, but it has plagued me several times recently with fonts as ubiquitous as Arial Narrow.
Well, you're certainly free to embed Arial Narrow, so what you're being plagued by here is not so much unembeddable fonts as a lack of understanding of what's going on when a font is embedded. Forgive me if I talk down to you at all; I don't mean to, I just want to make sure that I cover all of the background without leaving anything out, or glossing over a critical technical issue. (Y'all regulars feel free to correct me if I'm getting any of this wrong.)
I suspect that the only answer in InDesign is to substitute an unrestricted font, details of which are explained earlier in this thread. But for those of you who've shared my pain and find this thread as I did, here's a solution I've discovered in editing with the full version of Acrobat 9: Using the "TouchUp Text Tool" (Tools > Advanced Editing > TouchUp Text Tool), select the uneditable text and change the font in the Properties dialog to one that passes muster with the licensing restrictions. Save. Lather, rinse, repeat. This will keep you from tearing your hair out with the thought that you must go back to change it all in the source document and create the PDF all over again (not a big deal with many docs, but a real pain with a complex form like the ones I've recently created).
When you make a PDF from InDesign with a perfectly legitimate font that permits embedding, it's possible to either a) store the entire font in the PDF, or b) store only the characters that are used from the font in the PDF. This second option is called "subsetting" - you're embedding a subset of the font, not the whole thing. "Subset fonts when percentage of characters used is less than XX%." You'll find this control in the "Advanced" section of the Export PDF dialog.So, if you use 80% of the characters in a font, and have subsetting set to 50%, then InDesign will embed the whole font.
So, assuming that you're trying to edit text in a PDF in a font which was not subsetted, then why in the world would it give you that error message? My assumption is that it would be because of the encoding of that font. Many fonts, when embedded in a PDF, have their encoding changed, for reasons that I really don't completely understand myself. You can imagine, I'm sure - thing about a font with thousands of glyphs, like a Chinese font, and then make a Chinese PDF. The font will be subsetted, because there's no point in storing all ~6000 glyphs of a Chinese font in a PDF that's only a page long with a filesize of 50k. So, the PDF libraries will re-encode a subsetted version of the font, but since it's re-encoded, the font no longer matches what I have installed and is therefore not editable in Acrobat anymore. Try opening up a PDF and going to its Properties (control-D) and looking at the Fonts tab. You can have Helvetica installed on your computer, but since the PDF engine can re-encode fonts on the fly, the Helvetica in the PDF (CID encoding, or something similar) doesn't match the Helvetica on my hard drive, so I can't edit that text in Acrobat at all.
I hope this helps you. For what it's worth, you should search Arial Narrow on these forums and apply the appropriate update, because I'm 99% certain that any Arial Narrow-related issues you are experiencing have nothing whatsoever to do with this particular conversation. It sounds like you're confusing fonts missing from your computer that are used in ID documents (like Arial Narrow) with fonts that can't be embedded due to mistakes in font production (like Thonburi).

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<u><b>[email protected]</b></u>
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/community [original link is broken]
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rik

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 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
 Couple of iPhones and an iPad
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Why provide fonts that can't be used??

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