Why SAP Script client-dependent but Smartform is client independent

Hi All,
What are the fundamental reasons for justifying that SAP Script is client-dependent but Smartform is client independent ???
Regards
jaman

hi,
why script is client dependent?
the reason is:
in script, to display some table data, we use text elements, where the text elements access the dictionary tables data. there the table from which we are fetching data, that may be a client dependent table, so first the text elements became client dependent. as script use text elements, script also became client dependent.
hope u got the point. to b simple, the text elements r client dependent, there fore scripts also became client dependent.
smartforms are client independent. bcoz it doesnt use any text elements. it will be executed through a function module, as you know function modules are client independent, the smartform also became client independent.
hope ur clear, if any doubts, plz post them back.
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Why SAP Script are Client Dependent, Smartforms are client-independent.

why SAP Script are Client Dependent,Smartforms are client-independent.
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Why SAP Script is said to be client dependent

Hi friends,
Can you tell me Why SAP Script is said to be client dependent .
please let me know it
Thank you

Hi,
Please go through this link,
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Hope this will give you a clear idea.
Feel free to revert back.
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Why SAP script is client dependent ?

why SAP script is client dependent ?

Hi,
By design, SAP script is a word processing tool which displays data on the form with the help of text elements where the logic of those is written in the print program and Forms were designed to be driven from print program, hence are often termed as client dependent. Smart forms are client independent. Bcoz it doesnu2019t use any text elements. It will be executed through a function module. When a print program calls a Smart Form, the form itself takes over to produce output, without any further direction from print program.
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Client Independent

What is the client concept in SAP? What is the meaning of client independent?

HI
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-introduction.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/general/what-is-sap--landscape.htm
Client dependent Means if you create that data in one client is limited to that client only and it is not accessable in other clients
Like SAP SCRIPTS and STD texts data
where as Client Independent means the data if you create in one client that is available in that as well as in other clients
Like SMARTFORMS, All dictionary Objects data and Repository objects data like Programs, Fun modules, tables etc..
There is no specific reason behind why scripts are client dep[endent and smartforms are client independent!!!
As for SAP -- Scripts are called client dependent because if you create client in say,200 it would be available in that only.If you want to test the script in client 300 then it won't be there,you will have to go to transaction se71 in 300 .Then Utilities-> Copy from client.Give the source as 200 & form name(i.e. script name) & copy.
Few more reasons why....? Please read below:
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s.SAPscript forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports;
if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.
Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.
In commercial, organizational, and technical terms, a self-contained unit in an SAP system with separate master records and its own set of tables.
There are different meanings.
Functionality point of View CLIENT is the highest hierarchial Orgn entity in any module
Clients again are different from each box/system like DEV,Quality and PRD.
Generally we create more clients in DEV system one for technical and other for sandbox and other for Customization etc.
This is a Mandatory field in all tables.
Each client has its own set of Application,master,data. Hence we need to populate data for each clinet separatly.(I think you cant say "implementing the SAP for the client")
Client Independant: These objects are not specific to any client. And it is universal which can be viewed,changed across the clients.
Client Dependant: These are the objects can be viewed, changed for the client for which it has been assigned. Other clients do not have access on these objects.
In SAP, all objects are finally stored as tables. "Mandt" is key field which determines whether the object is client dependant or not.
Client Independant transport requests will make the transported objects available across the clients. and Client dependent transport request make the objects available only for the client mentioned by field "Mandt"
look here:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/b7/8a9a3aaf894871e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Client Independent(cross client) objects can be accessed from any client without transporting. For example, Reports and smartforms are client independent that means if you create a report or smartform in one client, this report and smartform can be viewed in another client without transporting.
Where as client dependent objects can be viewed or accessed only in the client in which you create them.
All scripts are client dependent and some tables are client dependent.
There are two types of objects in SAP, client dependent and client independent. Objects used in several clients are called client independent while objects used in a specific client is called client dependent. To identify if a table is client dependent, one can use tcodes SE11 or SE12. In the table field attributes, if the MANDT field is present that table is client dependent.
Almost all the programs and database objects are client independent.
Only the data in Database tables are client dependent.
Go through the below PDF file, it is having 4 pages which explains why SAP has Client independent and Client dependant..
http://www.sappoint.com/basis/clntadm.pdf#search=%22ABAP%20%2B%20client%20independent%20and%20client%20dependant%20%22
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Almost all are client dependent...You need to transport to other client.All Configurations has to be transported to diff, server (Like QAS,PRD) from DEV .
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Hi all experts! I have a question concerning sap script
First some background information:
Ive created a sap script that is called from a function module and from an executable program, when I run the executable program the sap script work fine, but when I run the function module, all the variables in the sap script dont have value
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Hi All,
How to find out in a particular object whether SAP scripts or smart forms are used?
If forms are used is there any t.code to find out which type of form is used?
Regards,
Vamsi P

Hello Vamsi,
SAP scripts and SMARTFORMS - both serve the same purpose.
SMARTFORMS were introduced since the release of SAP 4.7. Earlier to that it was only SAP scripts for designing layouts. SMARTFORMS have few additional benefits in terms designing over scripts.
Now, coming to your questions - Every Script or a SMARTFORM has a driver program. i.e. Smart form/Script has to be called into a program. And this Driver program is in turn assigned to the relevant output type, And the output type is assiged to appropriate level of a transaction i.e. at the header level of an order or invoice etc.
T-code: SE71 is used to design SAP script.
T-Code: SMARTFORMS is used for designing Smart Forms.
To find out whether a script or Smartform is used in any particular case..........you have to look into the Driver program that is assiged to the output type.
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Is it possible to use same sap script for different comp code with difflogo

I have 3 company codes. I need to use same sap script to all but each company code has different logo. I dnt want to go for 3 different sap script. Is it possible to change in coding
like this
If comp code = '100'
print ' logo1'
If comp code = '200'
print ' logo2'
If comp code = '300'
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Yes you can do it.
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In my knowledge there is no Option from SAP GUI Scripting.
When you run this from VBA you can use USER32-API function
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(ByVal hwndLock As Long) As Long
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Urgent:Why Script is cliend dependant and smartform is not client dependant

Hi all,
Can any one pls tell me why script is client dependent and smartform is not client dependant.
Please give some real time examples in brief
regards
tapu

Hi
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SMARTFORMS AND SAPSCRIPTS ARE:
1. script is client dependent one while smartform is client independent.
2. In scripts we have to write print program while in smart forms it is not necessary.
3. In scripts we can print background logo while in smartforms we cant print background logo
4. In scripts we have 99 main windows while in smartforms we have only 1 main window.
5. In scripts we should write paragraph format otherwise we cant execute program while in smartforms no need to create paragraph formats .
6. In scripts we can print the text in only two character formats.
while in smartforms we can do with more.
7. In scripts we dont have line types while in smartforms we have linetypes.
8.Multiple page formats are possible in smartforms which is not the case in SAPScripts
9.It is possible to have a smartform without a main window .
10.Labels cannot be created in smartforms.
11.Routines can be written in smartforms tool.
12.Smartforms generates a function module when activated.
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s, while Smart Forms have only been around since (roughly) 2001. With that sort of time gap, there are bound to be significant differences between the two tools. Client dependence is a fundamental one. Although SAPscript has had some incremental improvements over time, its forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively ...
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Whenever a smartform is created, a funciton module gets generated. So, we can access the smartform in different clients. But in case of scripts, it is not so.. So, scripts are client dependent.
Smart Forms are implemented using the Function Module SSF*, and all the logic lies in the FM. Function Modules are client independent objects, so Smart forms are also client independent
SAP Scripts are the Layout Forms that you design and there are aviable in the client in which you have created them, for making them available you have to copy across the clients.
Because, Sapscripts are saved in ITF format as text in client dependant tables STXH and STXL. smartforms are not saved in client dependant tables and visible across clients.
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s, while Smart Forms have only been around since (roughly) 2001. With that sort of time gap, there are bound to be significant differences between the two tools. As you have noted correctly, client dependence is a fundamental one.
Although SAPscript has had some incremental improvements over time, its forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports; if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean. Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.
Conversely, a Smart Form is significantly more robust and complex. For instance, it can contain program nodes and nested tables with patterns. When a Smart Form is compiled, it generates an ABAP function module and these are always client-independent. This is appropriate, given that this form has more in common with an ABAP program than its predecessor. For instance, when a print program calls a Smart Form, the form itself takes over to produce output, without any further direction from the print program. In fact, the join is so seamless that I often find myself using a Smart Form's Initialization section for logic to handle any data gathering not handled by the print program. I would never even think to attempt this with SAPscript.
I suspect several factors figured into SAP's decision to make Smart Forms client-independent, including customer feedback. There are significant advantages to client-independence. For instance, a change made in one development client happens immediately across all development clients. Among other things, this means we don't have to waste time figuring which client contains the most recent version -- they all do! In addition, transporting Smart Forms is easier, since we can safely bundle them together in the same transport as their client-independent print programs (no worry about mixing client-dependent and independent objects).
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Good day Gurus.,,
Can anyone please tell me the Advantages of SAP Script over Smartforms and
Disadvantages of Smartforms over SAP script.
Also is there any special scenario where only sapscript could be used but not Smartforms.
Please enlighten me....
Many thanks

hi,
Smartforms are came into picture in 4.6 version to overcome the disadvantages of scripts.
Disadvantages of Scripts
1.scripts are client dependent.
2.we can't add colors in scripts.
3.It is paragraph dependent.
4.In this main window is compulsory.
5.mutiple page formats are not availble.
6.we can't add background pictures.
Adavantages of smartforms
smartforms are advanced versions of sap scripts,
1.smartforms are client independent.
2.we can add colors in smartforms.
3.It is not a paragraph dependent.
4.In this main window is not compulsory.
5.mutiple page formats are possible.
6.we can add background pictures.
7. it will generate one function module when activating it.
8. total code can be written in smartforms itself.
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