Why sever-side state saving doesn't support fail over?

Hi all,
In my previous thread "ADF server-side state saving method" Frank said that it doesn't support fail over.
Re: ADF server-side state saving method
My customer is wondering the reason.
If anyone has a clear statement about it, could you share it?
Any help will be much appreciated.
Atsushi

Timo,
As I wrote in my previous thread, my customer adopted multi-windows application design because they didn't know it caused viewExpiredException frequently.
Now I'm looking for the best setting for avoiding the exception and need ADF guru's help.
Frank said that ADF is on Sun's RI. And it seems that the state-saving parameters of Mojarra are working correctly in my environment. However any ADF docs don't mention the behavior of server-side state saving clearly. When I set state-saving method "server", view states are managed per logical view (≒ window). And it seems better for multi-window application than using client-token based state management from the perspective of preventing viewExpiredException.
Because fail over is not their requirement, if we could make sure that server-side state saving doesn't have other side-effects they might adopt it.
So I'd like to know in more detail about the behavior.
Thanks,
Atsushi

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ADF server-side state saving method

Hi all,
As far as I know, ADF has three view state saving methods.
1. client - tokens
2. client - all
3. server
My question is about server-side state saving.
If I set state saving methos "server" in web.xml, view state is stored in session scope as LRU map.
And the size of the map can be configured with below parameters in web.xml.
<context-param>
<param-name>com.sun.faces.numberOfViewsInSession</param-name>
<param-value>10</param-value>
</context-param>
<context-param>
<param-name>com.sun.faces.numberOfLogicalViews</param-name>
<param-value>5</param-value>
</context-param>
However I think these parameters is offered by Mojarra (Sun's JSF RI) and any ADF guides don't mention them.
These parameters are supported in ADF?
Regards,
Atsushi

Hi,
don't have a support statement for this but would be surprised if we don't as ADF Faces runs on top of the JSF RI.
However, I am wondering why your customer prefers state saving being handled on the server as it doesn't allow fail over for your application setup. Also it is the recommended option
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E25054_01/web.1111/b31973/ap_config.htm#CEGECDJF
+"Context parameter javax.faces.STATE_SAVING_METHOD: Specifies where to store the application's view state. By default this value is server, which stores the application's view state on the server. *It is recommended that you set javax.faces.STATE_SAVING_METHOD to client* when you use ADF Faces, to store the view state on the browser client. When set to client, ADF Faces then automatically uses token-based, client-side state saving. *You can specify the number of tokens to use instead of using the default number of 15*.+
+You can specify the following state-saving context parameters:+
+org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CLIENT_STATE_METHOD: Specifies the type of client-side state saving to use when client-side state saving is enabled by using javax.faces.STATE_SAVING_METHOD. The values for CLIENT_STATE_METHOD are:+
+token: (Default) Stores the page state in the session, but persists a token to the client. The simple token, which identifies a block of state stored back on the HttpSession object, is stored on the client. This enables ADF Faces to disambiguate the same page appearing multiple times. Failover is supported.+
+all: Stores all state information on the client in a (potentially large) hidden form field. It is useful for developers who do not want to use HttpSession.+
+*Performance Tip:*+
+Because of the potential size of storing all state information, it is recommended that you set client-state saving to token.+
+*org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CLIENT_STATE_MAX_TOKENS*: Specifies how many tokens should be stored at any one time per user, when token-based client-side state saving is enabled. The default is 15. When the number of tokens is exceeded, the state is lost for the least recently viewed pages, which affects users who actively use the Back button or who have multiple windows opened at the same time. If you are building HTML applications that rely heavily on frames, you would want to increase this value.+
+*org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.COMPRESS_VIEW_STATE*: Specifies whether or not to globally compress state saving on the session. Each user session can have multiple pageState objects that heavily consume live memory and thereby impact performance. This overhead can become a much bigger issue in clustering when session replication occurs. The default is off.+
+org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.USE_APPLICATION_VIEW_CACHE: Enables the Application View Cache (AVC), which can improve scalability by caching the state for the initial renders of the page's UI at an application scope. However, every page in the application must by analyzed for support in the AVC to avoid potential problems with debugging in an unexpected state and information leakage between users. Additionally, development is more difficult since page updates are not noticed until the server is restarted, and although initial render performance is enhanced, session size is not.+
+*CAUTION:*+
+The Application View Cache is not supported for this release. The feature does not work for any page where the rendering of the component tree causes the structure of the component tree to change temporarily. Since this is often the case, USE_APPLICATION_VIEW_CACHE should not be used."+
So unless your customer has a good reason for server side state I would suggest him/her to go with best practices
Frank

ADF client-side state saving

<p>Hi, I'm developing JSF with ADF and MyFaces. I want to minimise the load on my Server, e.g. by minimising use of session beans and other types of session storage. So I use the <t:saveState> from MyFaces instead. In web.xml I set the parameter:</p>
<p>
<context-param>
<param-name>javax.faces.STATE_SAVING_METHOD</param-name>
<param-value>client</param-value>
</context-param>
</p>
<p>This makes all the MyFaces components store state on the client. However, this still doesn't force the ADF components to use client-side state saving(!). As described here, the default behaviour in ADF is to use a session token to store page state in HttpSession. In my project I've seen all sorts of strange behaviour when the session token exceeds the number of CLIENT_STATE_MAX_TOKENS. Of course I can try to increase this value, but this will lead to even more sesison usage. </p>
<p>So, I tried setting another parameter in web.xml:</p>
<p>
<context-param>
<param-name>oracle.adf.view.faces.CLIENT_STATE_METHOD</param-name>
<param-value>all</param-value>
</context-param>
<p>
<p>This should force all state to be moved to the client in a hidden form field. But when I do this I get this type of error:</p>
<p>
2006-10-25 13:21:30,854 ERROR (taglib.core.ViewTag:181) - Error writing body content
java.io.NotSerializableException: oracle.adf.view.faces.component.core.input.CoreSelectOneChoice
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeObject0(ObjectOutputStream.java:1075)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.defaultWriteFields(ObjectOutputStream.java:1369)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeSerialData(ObjectOutputStream.java:1341)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeOrdinaryObject(ObjectOutputStream.java:1284)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeObject0(ObjectOutputStream.java:1073)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeArray(ObjectOutputStream.java:1245)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeObject0(ObjectOutputStream.java:1069)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeArray(ObjectOutputStream.java:1245)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeObject0(ObjectOutputStream.java:1069)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeObject(ObjectOutputStream.java:291)
at java.util.ArrayList.writeObject(ArrayList.java:569)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585)
at java.io.ObjectStreamClass.invokeWriteObject(ObjectStreamClass.java:890)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeSerialData(ObjectOutputStream.java:1333)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeOrdinaryObject(ObjectOutputStream.java:1284)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeObject0(ObjectOutputStream.java:1073)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeArray(ObjectOutputStream.java:1245)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeObject0(ObjectOutputStream.java:1069)
at java.io.ObjectOutputStream.writeObject(ObjectOutputStream.java:291)
at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.renderkit.core.CoreResponseStateManager.writeState(CoreResponseStateManager.java:82)
at org.apache.myfaces.application.jsp.JspStateManagerImpl.writeState(JspStateManagerImpl.java:430)
at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.application.StateManagerImpl.writeState(StateManagerImpl.java:241)
at org.apache.myfaces.taglib.core.ViewTag.doAfterBody(ViewTag.java:145)
at org.apache.jsp.pages.innkurv.innkurvMain_jsp._jspx_meth_f_view_0(innkurvMain_jsp.java:152)
at org.apache.jsp.pages.innkurv.innkurvMain_jsp._jspService(innkurvMain_jsp.java:91)
at org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(HttpJspBase.java:94)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)
at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:324)
at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:292)
at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:236)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:252)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:173)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.invoke(ApplicationDispatcher.java:672)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.processRequest(ApplicationDispatcher.java:463)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.doForward(ApplicationDispatcher.java:398)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.forward(ApplicationDispatcher.java:301)
at org.apache.myfaces.context.servlet.ServletExternalContextImpl.dispatch(ServletExternalContextImpl.java:416)
at org.apache.myfaces.application.jsp.JspViewHandlerImpl.renderView(JspViewHandlerImpl.java:234)
at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.application.ViewHandlerImpl.renderView(ViewHandlerImpl.java:157)
at org.apache.myfaces.lifecycle.LifecycleImpl.render(LifecycleImpl.java:384)
at javax.faces.webapp.FacesServlet.service(FacesServlet.java:138)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:252)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:173)
at org.apache.myfaces.webapp.filter.ExtensionsFilter.doFilter(ExtensionsFilter.java:144)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:202)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:173)
at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.webapp.AdfFacesFilterImpl._invokeDoFilter(AdfFacesFilterImpl.java:367)
at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.webapp.AdfFacesFilterImpl._doFilterImpl(AdfFacesFilterImpl.java:336)
at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.webapp.AdfFacesFilterImpl.doFilter(AdfFacesFilterImpl.java:196)
at oracle.adf.view.faces.webapp.AdfFacesFilter.doFilter(AdfFacesFilter.java:87)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:202)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:173)
at org.springframework.orm.hibernate3.support.OpenSessionInViewFilter.doFilterInternal(OpenSessionInViewFilter.java:174)
at org.springframework.web.filter.OncePerRequestFilter.doFilter(OncePerRequestFilter.java:76)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:202)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:173)
at no.justisdepartementet.etterlysning.web.util.ContextResourceFilter.doFilter(ContextResourceFilter.java:69)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:202)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:173)
at no.justisdepartementet.etterlysning.web.util.RedirectFilter.doFilter(RedirectFilter.java:59)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:202)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:173)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:213)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:178)
at org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBase.invoke(AuthenticatorBase.java:482)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:126)
at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:105)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:107)
at org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:148)
at org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:856)
at org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConnection(Http11Protocol.java:744)
at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.PoolTcpEndpoint.processSocket(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:527)
at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.runIt(LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.java:80)
at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:684)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
</p>

<p>Thanks guys. I did indeed try to use <t:saveState> to save the CoreSelectOneChoice. More specifically, I tried to use <t:saveState> on a backing bean where one of its properties were a CoreSelectOneChoice. The backing bean itself needs to be serializable as well as all of its properties, so the solution is to set the local variable transient.</p>
<p>After overcoming this problem, however, I found that some of my managed beans still had serialization problems because they had references to "service managers" that were dependency injected via JSF's managed means facility. See this blog for a discussion about serialization and MyFaces.
</p>

JSF 1.0 - client side state saving fails

Existing screen worked fine in Beta with client-side state saving. Fails in 1.0 Release with:
java.lang.NullPointerException
     at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.processRestoreState(UIComponentBase.java:997)
     at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.processRestoreState(UIComponentBase.java:1008)
     at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.processRestoreState(UIComponentBase.java:1022)
     at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.processRestoreState(UIComponentBase.java:1008)
     at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.processRestoreState(UIComponentBase.java:1008)
     at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.processRestoreState(UIComponentBase.java:1008)
     at com.sun.faces.application.StateManagerImpl.restoreComponentState(StateManagerImpl.java:273)
     at com.sun.faces.application.StateManagerImpl.restoreView(StateManagerImpl.java:186)
     at com.sun.faces.application.ViewHandlerImpl.restoreView(ViewHandlerImpl.java:239)
     at com.sun.faces.lifecycle.RestoreViewPhase.execute(RestoreViewPhase.java:157)
     at com.sun.faces.lifecycle.LifecycleImpl.phase(LifecycleImpl.java:200)
     at com.sun.faces.lifecycle.LifecycleImpl.execute(LifecycleImpl.java:90)
     at javax.faces.webapp.FacesServlet.service(FacesServlet.java:197)
This exception is found in tomcat log. Nothing found in debug log. I switched state saving to server and screen works, however, I need the application to work with client state saving.
Some screens in application work with client state saving. Some don't. All those that fail have the same exception as above.
Any ideas?

Hello
I have the same problem but i am not using any verbatim tag in my case the problem only appears when i am using two custom validators for a inputtexd in the same page .
the problem is solved using the server saving method but i want to use client saving method.
If you have any ideas please help .
this is the exeption :
java.lang.NullPointerException     at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.processRestoreState(UIComponentBase.java:1004)     at com.sun.faces.application.StateManagerImpl.restoreComponentState(StateManagerImpl.java:352)     at com.sun.faces.application.StateManagerImpl.restoreView(StateManagerImpl.java:240)     at com.sun.faces.application.ViewHandlerImpl.restoreView(ViewHandlerImpl.java:228)     at com.sun.faces.lifecycle.RestoreViewPhase.execute(RestoreViewPhase.java:157)     at com.sun.faces.lifecycle.LifecycleImpl.phase(LifecycleImpl.java:200)     at com.sun.faces.lifecycle.LifecycleImpl.execute(LifecycleImpl.java:90)     at javax.faces.webapp.FacesServlet.service(FacesServlet.java:197)     at com.evermind[Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE 10g (10.1.2.0.2)].server.http.ResourceFilterChain.doFilter(ResourceFilterChain.java:65)     at org.apache.myfaces.component.html.util.ExtensionsFilter.doFilter(ExtensionsFilter.java:122)     at com.evermind[Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE 10g (10.1.2.0.2)].server.http.ServletRequestDispatcher.invoke(ServletRequestDispatcher.java:663)     at com.evermind[Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE 10g (10.1.2.0.2)].server.http.ServletRequestDispatcher.forwardInternal(ServletRequestDispatcher.java:330)     at com.evermind[Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE 10g (10.1.2.0.2)].server.http.HttpRequestHandler.processRequest(HttpRequestHandler.java:830)     at com.evermind[Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE 10g (10.1.2.0.2)].server.http.HttpRequestHandler.run(HttpRequestHandler.java:285)     at com.evermind[Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE 10g (10.1.2.0.2)].server.http.HttpRequestHandler.run(HttpRequestHandler.java:126)     at com.evermind[Oracle Application Server Containers for J2EE 10g (10.1.2.0.2)].util.ReleasableResourcePooledExecutor$MyWorker.run(ReleasableResourcePooledExecutor.java:186)     at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534)
thanks
yinbr
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JSF client side state saving

I know the following thing
**When the HTML form is submitted it carries the view state value back to the server in the form of an HTTP parameter. JSF uses the value of this parameter to reconstruct the view during the restore view phase. The view is restored by reversing the process used to obtain the view state: it is decoded and deserialized.**
so I have tried to run the following code in jsp page with jsf tags I was able to see the input hidden parameter with facesview state and its value
<f:view>
        <h1>Hello World!</h1>
        <h:form>
           <h:inputText value="#{phonebean.phonenumber}" converter="Pconverter" id="input" >
        </h:inputText>
       <h:outputText value="rakeshggh" />
       <h:commandButton action="test" value="submit" />
       </h:form>
        </f:view>the encoded html output i was able to view the following hidden value which holds the view state as foolows
<input type="hidden" name="javax.faces.ViewState" id="javax.faces.ViewState" value="H4s......very big value />
but my question is when i have removed the jsf form tag but had some components in the view but there was no hidden element which holds the view state on
client side , so I was wondering how the view state that stores on the client side goes to the server and gets reconstructed i.e the tree of components .It would
be great if someone throws light on this I would appreciate it !!!

rocky_nirvana wrote:
**When the HTML form is submitted it carries the view state value back to the server in the form of an HTTP parameter. JSF uses the value of this parameter to reconstruct the view during the restore view phase. The view is restored by reversing the process used to obtain the view state: it is decoded and deserialized.**
so I have tried to run the following code in jsp page with jsf tags I was able to see the input hidden parameter with facesview state and its value
<f:view>
<h1>Hello World!</h1>
<h:form>
<h:inputText value="#{phonebean.phonenumber}" converter="Pconverter" id="input" >
</h:inputText>
<h:outputText value="rakeshggh" />
<h:commandButton action="test" value="submit" />
</h:form>
</f:view>the encoded html output i was able to view the following hidden value which holds the view state as foolows
<input type="hidden" name="javax.faces.ViewState" id="javax.faces.ViewState" value="H4s......very big value />This is by the way only applicable if you have set view state saving to the Client Side.
but my question is when i have removed the jsf form tag but had some components in the view but there was no hidden element which holds the view state on
client side , so I was wondering how the view state that stores on the client side goes to the server and gets reconstructed i.e the tree of components .It would
be great if someone throws light on this I would appreciate it !!!As GET requests are idempotent, JSF can just reproduce the same view at the server side.

Problem with server side state saving ,JSF 1.1.1

Hello,
In my web.xml the.STATE_SAVING_METHOD setting is s server
<context-param>
        <param-name>javax.faces.STATE_SAVING_METHOD</param-name>
        <param-value>server</param-value>
    </context-param>
for measurement of application security isn't not allow to change this parameter to client , so the problem when i access for application and i open a new page via linker for print for example and i would access for my initial page to make change or modify my initial page it s no possible to make any modification because i have a empty bean , but if the state saving is a client i haven't a problem because a tree map is stored in client browser, so my version of JSF is 1.1.1 ,
So can you explain the cause for his problem
and what's the solution for my problem ?
NB:i can't change the parameter for STATE_SAVING_METHOD for a client
Thank you

did you search this form, there were lot of discussions in the past about server side cookies, you may find an answer to your problem.
alternate approache for sending a value from parent page to the pop up window.
1. when opening the pop up pass the values along with the url (if the size of variable is small)
alternatively you can store the value in a hidden form field in parent window and access the same from poup window using
you can simple access the page one form field value in page 2 (pop up) by using the following code.
window.opener.document.getElementById('hiddenformfieldid').value

Why server side shared object doesn't work for me ?

application.onPublish = function (client, p_stream)
     var myInfo = SharedObject.get(p_stream.name);
     myInfo.setProperty("live", true);
I set the sharedobject using code above,now I can publish video,but so is not set(from admin console, "shared object" tab).
What can be possible reason for this?

Change your code to below and see if it works (i mean i am not saying it will work - i am telling you to just try out - if it does not work - i'll look more into details)
var myInfo;
application.onPublish = function (client, p_stream)
     myInfo = SharedObject.get(p_stream.name);
     myInfo.setProperty("live", true);

ADF EA 16, client state saving bug

Hi,
I have similiar issue as one reported at: Re: Bug in ADF client-side state saving.
I have bug with <af:showDetail> component when using CLIENT_STATE_METHOD.
I have this code in jsp:
<af:showDetail id="payingItem" disclosedText="a" undisclosedText="b" styleClass="xpMenuBars"
inlineStyle="margin-top: 10px; height: 24px; vertical-align: middle;" binding="#{outlookBar.payment}">
When using token (server state saving) this HTML is rendered:
<form><span id="m:payingItem"><div class="xpMenuBars" style="margin-top:10px;height:24px;vertical-align:middle" duplicate_style="vertical-align:middle"> ...
You can see that inlineStyle attribute is printed out in HTML style attribute. When I use client side state method ("all" in web.xml) the inlineStyle is not transferred to style (it's empty):
<form><span id="m:payingItem"><div class="xpMenuBars" style="" duplicate_style="vertical-align:middle">...
Hope this will be resolved in EA17.
Another question is why I have duplicate_style in HTML? Why renderer doesn't append style attribute. Browser wont recognize duplicate_style so it is quite useless.
Regards, Miroslav Resetar

You're seeing two separate bugs. One is the one reported earlier: inlineStyle can get dropped when saving state in the client. This has been fixed in EA17.
The other thing you're seeing - with duplicate_style - is a different bug. It's not that we're outputting "duplicate_style" intentionally, but that our output code automatically (in debug mode) detects when someone tries to write out the same attribute twice (always a bug), and turns the second into "duplicate_xyz" to mark the mistake. So, the real bug is that when you set inlineStyle on af:showDetail, our code tries to write out "style" twice instead of merging the two together.

Maya iff plugin doesn't support Alpha when saving

Now that's annoying... the iff plugin doesn't support Alpha Channel when saving file! And when you open an IFF file with an alpha, generated from Maya for example, the alpha is removed and the transparent parts of the original alpha become punches out the image (so you see the grey checker in the BG).
I hope someone from the PS team reads this and fixes it. Maya converts all textures to IFF internally before rendering and that slows you down if you have a lot of textures. I was hoping I could do this in PS myself but it looks like I will have to rely on Shake to do it.
Anybody knows of a drag and drop software that could easily convert TIFF, JPG, TGA or other formats to IFF? I need and easy solution because I don't want to have to convert all my textures one by one.
Robert
PS: I posted this as a bug to Adobe...

I can confirm that if one uses the Eraser tool in Photoshop CS5 to create 0% opacity (100% transparency), the pixel values will be set to pure white. I have a content-aware plug-in that has to specifically avoid examining pixels if the transparency mask exists and the opacity is equal to 0.
We can only guess that this was done to reduce saved file sizes or something. ??? I can imagine the thinking when this was designed/implemented: "Who'd want to maintain data that was utterly transparent?"
Clearly someone does.
What this pixel destruction "quirk" DOES DO, specficially, is blow away the proposal that viewing opacity in Photoshop is completely interchangeable with the maintenance of a separate alpha channel.
I second PECourtejoie's request to make the 100% deletion non-destructive. After all, Photoshop now maintains information outside the canvas, why not maintain it in transparent image areas as well? And if it's compatibility you're worried about, make an Advanced option to toggle the functionality.
Thanks.
-Noel

Why doesn't the MBPr support 2560x1440 over HDMI with OSX when Windows7 (bootcamp) supports it just fine?

I purchased a 2013 MBPr 15" (the first Mac I've ever owned btw) and so far have enjoyed the experience. I purchased a large 27" high resolution 2560x1440 non-Apple display which I planned on using HDMI output for, since HDMI has no problem supporting this resolution. After receiving this display yesterday I came to the sad realization that OSX does not support 2560x1440 over HDMI. However, under further investigation I found that Windows7 in Bootcamp on the same machine will beautifully display the full 2560x1440 over HDMI.
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OK. No reason to be playing games here. Just surprised that this issue hasn't been brought up here on the community boards as well. Here's the simple solution
Steve
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After reaching a Level III technician in Belkin customer support today and having spent approximately 4-5 person hours on this issue, we figured out that the Sound/Output preferences in the Apple System Preferences should not be set to "Internal Speakers" but rather set to "USB PnP Sound Device".
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Why Java Web Start doesn't support Pack200 out-of-the-box?

Hello All,
Why Java Web Start doesn't support Pack200 out-of-the-box? I was hoping that Java 6 would make things easier by adding direct support for Pack200 in Java Web Start and JNLP without needing to use servlets, etc.? All my clients are Java 5 or above so I can't push the Pack200 compressed version of the jar to every single one of them and there is no selection process needed. But I can't do it because of the servlet or complex Apache server setup requirement (it would be a headache to get customers' web server admins to set up Apache or whatever web server that way).
My question is why is there unwillingness to add Pack200 support directly to Java Web Start and JNLP so that you can start Pack200 compressed jars just like you would start any jar using Java Web Start? Is te a technical problem?
Thank you,
Mete Kural

Hallo,
I didn�t try it, but the webstart FAQ�s read:
Can I use Pack200 compression with the JnlpDownloadServlet?
Yes. The JnlpDownloadServlet distributed in the samples directory of the JDK now supports Pack200. If you deploy yourfile.jar along with yourfile.jar.pack.gz the packed file will be downloaded when the client is running Java Web Start 1.5.0 or later.
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/javaws/developersguide/faq.html#217
For further information you may want to look at
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/javaws/developersguide/downloadservletguide.html#pack200
The configuration of the server and the the servlet (as described in the second link) is as easy as it seems.
I got it working on the first try and it was my first experience with websevers at all.
Bye Schippe
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Schippe

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