Wi-Fi Problems on New MBP - Should I return it?

I got a new MBP about 6 weeks ago. I had an older MBP which I bought two years ago and I never had wi-fi problems. However, the new MBP has given me a constant stream of wi-fi problems.
Problem #1 - When I move my MBP at home more than 20 feet away from my AEBS it drops the signal altogether. Even when I'm within 20 feet I have to set the network to N-only which means I can't access the wireless using my iPhone.
Problem #2 - I often connect in Starbucks using T-Mobile. My old MBP never had any issues. However, about 2/3 of the time that I try to connect with the new MBP I have issues. It usually connects at first but then drops the signal after a bit and I can't always reconnect.
I'm at the point where I'm ready to take the computer back and swap it out for a new one. All the software is up-to-date (running 10.5.6) so I'm not sure what else I can do at this point. This is my last gasp effort before I go through the hassle of trying to get a new machine.
Any suggestions for things I can try?

Could you post the output of these commands here?
Step 1:
Command 1: ( In Terminal)
'/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Resources/airport --scan'
Paste the results here.
Step 2:
Now Open console->system.log. Clear the display and Insert Marker.
Command 2: ( In Terminal)
'sudo /usr/libexec/airportd -d '
Now reproduce the wireless issue you see and monitor the system log in Console.
Wait for a few minutes so you see this issue happening.
Then, Turn AirPort off and on a couple times to see if this issue still happens.
Copy paste the system.log here.
Step 3:
Next, when you see this issue happening, hold the option key down and click on the AirPort menu icon and get the RSSI and Transmit rate details and post them here.
Misc things to check:
Make sure your AP settings are good. Stick to standard 11g/11a modes and disable any enhanced modes if your Access Point supports it.
Real Player check- Do you by any chance have Real Player running ? It installs a Download Agent in your Login Items and that is known to create havoc. Try uninstalling this app. if you have it. Also make sure there is no instance of Real Player here -- System Prefereces-Accounts- Login Items.

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Interval Since Last Panic Report: 416453 sec
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Anonymous UUID: 78C4E633-2369-4277-AB9D-877C2067BEE2
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0x5b7128f8 : 0x2264b0 (0x1 0x7e2f3d4 0x6d1b0dc 0x0)
0x5b712968 : 0x2270d4 (0x7e2f3f0 0x2194c0 0x0 0x0)
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0x7e60bf78 : 0x293dd1 (0x8b51f08 0x0 0x0 0x0)
0x7e60bfc8 : 0x29f48d (0x8b51f04 0x0 0x10 0x9a7c4c0)
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Tamara wrote:
DwindleFlip wrote:
3G or not, AT&T has very little 3G coverage in the entire US. Look at their coverage map for 3G service. Its only in the richest of neighborhoods here in NY.
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Cook Book wrote:
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Frankly, I bought into it for two reasons: First, hearing about the vaunted Mac a/v/ and doc/photo editing capabilities,... and about MacOS stability, etc... Well, it all needs a little work still: on the part of new users like me, but also probably on the part of the Apple/Mac people as well. 2nd reason I decided to purchase the MBP - i.e. ability to run Windows (I have not yet tried BootCanp, etc...: still resolving preliminary issues!). I still live in a heavy Win environment at my business - no other way of course!
Communications issues seem to still prevail: I am hanging out at several VERY HELPFUL forums (AppleDiscussionForum, MacRumorsForums, etc...) and the same issues keep popping up. Im my case, same as all above reported, with a few additional points, as follows:
1. Xmission errors: seem to be - at least in my case - a constant factor, regardless on how close/far i am from my wireless router. For example, I would be attempting to dwnload an upgrade (large)QT or MacOS file. i am barely into the dowmoad, and I already have several Read/Send errors. By the end of the download, I will have probably about 15 Rcv and 5 Send errors. Never gets quite that bad in my Win machines, I must mention. Anything to do here (I know, there are such things always affecting wireless com). AND, MOST importantly, how that this affect the effectiveness of the upgrade (I spotted same thing with MacOS 10.4.10 and Safari Beta 3 upgrade downloads!). Would it be likely that applying upgrades in such circumstances would screw up the OS??? Could OTOH such errors be automatically "compensated" by re-xmits from the source, and eventually the download would be OK? Because quite frankly, I do NOT know if my important upgrade download was OK to apply to the system, given those errors!!!
Also same thing with PING errors. Quite frequent when pinging another device on my network.
2. Quite often, accessing a site will proceed somehow OK, and then things will get stuck twd the end, as if some buffer somewhere gets overloaded??? Of course, as elsewhere reported, same can often happen with com getting stuck right over the "www" part of the URL!
3. AND, of course, the often reported "NO connection to the Internet", but computer shows good signal level and connection otherwise.
4. Strangely enough, seems that the Airport Extreme wifi card sort of "warms up the the internet" as one proceeds to start using it. It eventually picks up on a network, and often "improves" its connection over time!
5. Built in Airport Extreme seems to not exhibit up all immediately surrounding networks. Sensitivity issue?? iStumbler does.
6. iStumbler permanently posts noise level of 9% regardless of how close to my wireless router/broadband modem I am. Anyone uses iStumbler to monitor network traffic?
This is getting longuish: I just want to get over all those p*ant issues and get into putting my a/v stuff together!!
- Roger T
Thanks for just reading all this!. I am not sure it is all fixable (back to the Win "features" terminology, really meaning "bugs"??)

Thanks, BDaqua. This support forum is quite well stocked: I have been perusing all its nooks and cranies!
On the www.dslreports.com - All things Mac - forum, I spotted a couple of mentions of the following type of infromation:
link: »www.hardmac.com/news/2007-07-27/#7039
- The first TechNote provides information concerning the Airport problem affecting the MBP Santa Rosa (but also other Mac Intel). When used on battery, the wireless connection drops and one can even experience kernel panic. Apple Centers are asked not to exchange affected notebook as this is due to a unidentified bug in the Atheros driver, and should be fixed in the future with a simple Airport system update. So for the moment, unfortunate users are asked to directly power their notebook when using wireless network, or using Ethernet connection when running on battery... in other words, turn your notebook into a desktop
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I am wondering if you and folks on this close-to-Apple forum know anything about this. At least, we could just await remedy instead of messing around endlessly looking for solutions and... pondering as to whether it was a wise thing to purchase an expensive machine which happens to have trouble communicating online. After all, seems that the Mac folks are prone to spend MORE time online uploading/downloading music and videos instead of my being normally doing with the rest of my (Win) computers, i.e. work on customer lists, correspondence, inventories, accounting, data bases, etc....
So, seems to me we do have a pb and Apple might just save a few $$$ on silly ads and get to work on com instead. if nothing else to avoid the appearance of further - admittedly rather funny - ad-spoofs!
So back to your further inquiry. I run a wireless network from a HughesNet satellite modem, thru a Linksys WRT54GL wireless router, into some nearby office LANed desktops and point of sale equipment, to another neighbouring facility via wireless bridge, and to my Mac laptop. Distance from the laptop to the router: 50 ft max.
It all works surprizingly very well: up to 200kbps up and 1000 kbps down (in prime time, 150 up and 600 down). OK, my set up looks complex and incurring LOTS of activity. Actually, online activity is quite minimal and well scheduled - right now I am the only machine on the network online. Otherwise, our office processes online money wiring for customers among other things.
I'll try your DNS server choice on the Mac settings first. Will report accordingly.
Thanks for everything!
- Roger T

My new MBP is really messed up and I am wondering what I should do.

(sorry for the mess of a post. I just had the good news of having brain cancer and they put this dressing all over my entire head I can barely see, but I want to post this, so I am going to give it a shot.)
I went to see a genius at the local apple store. After spending 1 hour trying to fix all the software and hardware issues, he went to the back of the store, came back and said we are getting you a new MBP with all the equivalant upgrades you had with the other one (the one that had all the problems). I received the new MBP, the same genius said if I leave my old MBP with him he will transfer all the data over and call me when it is done. I got the new MBP, have had it for about 3 weeks and there are more problems than ever. I have no idea what this would do to a new computer but the genius transfered all my data/files/settings over to my new MBP and he did this before or without fixing all the software problems I was having on the computer he transfered my date from.
Now my software updates... is not working. I read the article, trashed 3 apple.softwareupdates.com preferences wit no help. I find out that he said after I asked about iLife; "yes you will get iLife, all Apple computers come with iLife. There is no iLife 09 just my old iLife 08. When I spotlight iLife 09, no iLife comes up only in emails. It does not even pick up my old 08iLife that is in a folder which was transfered over from my old computer.
The manager at the apple store said to install iLife09 from the gray disk. However, for some reason the new updates my computer needs are not triggering the software updater telling me there are new updates. It looks like the genius did an update before I picked it up and it updated one security issue, but no iTunes 9/1/1 or any other updates I should have received when I look at all the recent MBP update (Apple updates only) list.
When I do go to look at the current updates for this computer it brings me to an Apple website that has all my old updates from the old MBP and in a Finder file it shows all the updates from the old computer and just the one that the genius updated for me.
Does any body have any idea what I should do? It is frustrating. I would like to just start from the beginning with the new computer, wipe everything off and install it all new and get rid of all the stuff from my old MBP that was transfered to my new MBP.
Thank for any help.

I would wipe the hard drive and start from scratch. The only thing I would save from the old comp are documents, movies and music also make sure you have any passwords or mail that you need to keep. I would avoid Time Machine and just do a normal backup. Boot from the installer and go to disk utilities in the menu and erase the hard drive. When that is done do a custom install and avoid any demos and software you don't use. Install QuickTime 7 from the optional installs.
Then manually download and install the OS updates before installing any third party apps avoiding the combos. Depending on your install OS version you may not need all those below.
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosxv1061update.htm l
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosxv1062update.htm l
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1018
When you are done run software update and install the security updates only. When you are done with those you can install whatever application updaters there are and then move on to installing your third party apps.
Hope everything works out for you.

New MBP and SSD problems?

Ok, so I installed an Intel SSD in my new MBP( I am eventually getting the MCE OptiBay to put my regular HDD back in. Here's the thing...Every time I run Boot Camp Assistant, and click to install Windows...it restarts...grey screen, then...flashing folder with question mark. Any ideas?? I've reinstalled OSX on this drive twice now. There seems to be nothing wrong with the drive because OSX installed and runs fine on it. What's going on? Do the new MBP's need a new Boot Camp update, or something?

Intel 2G SSD? Did you remove the 'mechanical' drive for now?
There were problems in the past with Intel and with 3rd party SSDs.
What I would like you to try doing is use the mechanical drive for now for OS X if possible, and disconnect it, and with just the SSD in there (pretty hard I guess???) forget using BCA, and boot Windows 7 DVD and have at it.
Firmware on Mac's, firmware on Intel SSD...
I assume holding Option/Alt on startup doesn't work either.
10.6.6 did a couple things, still no idea why:
Wants to download drivers to CD (broken);
Takes longer to boot back to OS X (no idea);
OS X reports to be running slower than before.
OS X still lacks TRIM for SSD and OS X suffers (still faster but not what it should be).
Oh, what version of Windows? you may need Windows 7, and if you bought it from school or electronic download, did you have to burn ISO to disc? That can act or behave in odd ways like this.

Problem Installing SSD in new MBP

Hi, I thought this was gonna be easy: installing a new Samsung 128GB SSD in the optical CD/DVD drive of my new 13" MBP. How wrong I was. I thought the H/W bit would be tough, but the S/W got me instead. What I did:
I left the original HDD (500GB) in the bay & put the Hardwrk's Adapter (& SSD) in the CD/DVD slot - tricky but no real problem.
Rebooted & installed CCC, used DU to format the SSD as a Single GUID partition with MAC OS (Journaled) format - seemed OK.
Used CCC to clone Everything on the old drive to the new one, again said OK. Checked the SSD in DU, repaired permissions, etc.
Reboot, Option key, boot from SSD - here's where things start going wrong. Takes 30s to boot, so cannot be an SSD :-(
In DU the original HDD is still root "/" mount point, so the reboot failed and it reverted back to the SSD.
Tried taking out the HDD & boot only from SSD - Mac fails to properly boot. Reset.
Considered that it might be a CCC problem, or maybe a DU error in formatting, so today:
Booted from MAC OS X ML Recovery USB stick, redid the partition step, but did not reformat the drive.
Reinstall ML fresh, was taking too long (c.90m) so I left it running, will check at lunch time...
Have checked here & on the net, and I do not seem to be doing anything wrong, this usually works for most people - any ideas?
I could try putting the SSD in the HDD bay, but it should work from the 6MB optical bay in a new MBP?
Any thoughts on what went wrong or what I could do to fix this would be most appreciated...

Yes, I thought of that (I was prepared). :-) So I put the new Samsung SSD in my PC to check the firmware version first (as you can't do this on a Mac), which was up-to-date, so nothing to do there. I hope this did not cause a problem with the disc (which I am beginning to suspect - ironic because I chose this disc for Mac compatability), as I set it to GUID partition on the PC ready for speed testing (which I then could not do).
Update: the OS re-install from the USB key failed, did not even look like a working drive this time (single folder red warning icon on it), and didn't come up properly on the Option Reboot list. Based on the above I went into the Recovery Partition from the HDD & did another reinstall from there. This time I changed the partition type to something else (Mac), then back to GUID single & reformatted it, Mac OS (J). It is busy doing the OS install, c.90m again, so will check tonight, but do not hold out much hope...
Only option I can see now is a H/W problem with the CD/DVD drive adapter, so will try one last time by removing this & swapping the SSD for the HDD then reinstall OS direct from USB key.
Should this fail I am all out of options, as the SSD is useless as a 2nd disk or external from the MBP. Only option would be to try to clone the OCZ Vertex III 120GB SSD in the PC onto the Samsung, use this in W7, and swap the OCZ into the Mac? Or just give up & sell it on ebay. :-(
PS: On reading other posts on (Smasung) SSD replacement for MBP HDD, I should note that I did NOT copy the Recovery partiton from the old HDD to the new drive, figuring the old disc would still be in the machine (as a data volume), so I could save a little space on the SSD itself, I was told this would not be a problem, any thoughts?

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