Width Tool BUG! Come on people, nobody is flipping about this???

Hi there,
I'm making an infographic and as I was working with the width tool I've noticed some strange thing: I set a couple of anchor width points precisely, but for some reason there's a thinner part all the time:
From 30pt (wide green part) it supposed to to go back to 6pt (top left width tool point) and keep that width until another point, and it eventually does, but with a thinner part between. No matter how many points I add the little curve stays there.
The stroke line is set to one side only (inside the width tool options). Maybe that is what causing the problem?
It always happens if the line is decreasing in width as well:
At the red line the width is 30pt (and it should be all the way) but a "bump" is clearly visible before the width tool point. And if I hover the width tool it always shows bigger width than it supposed to be, sometimes even up to 4-5 points bigger.
I'm using Illustrator CC 2014.0.0
Can anyone reproduce this phenomenon? It is not a super big bug, but aesthetically speaking it is a big no-no.
What the F is going on? Adobe?
Thanks,
Robin

> it is supposed to to go back to 6pt and keep that width until another point...
That is a false assumption. It seems that Illustrator is trying to preserve the smoothness of the curve by making the line thinner in between two points of the same width, but I agree, they should rework the algorithm to make it work more intuitively.

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I'm making an infographic and as I was working with the width tool I've noticed some strange thing: I set a couple of anchor width points precisely, but for some reason there's a thinner part all the time:
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i looked up everywhere now, but it seems, the problem hasnt solved yet. A Bug? No way, not with that great tool, they would update it, right?
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Hi Mike, thanks for your Reply!
Acctually I allready tried to turn that off. Nothing Changes.
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