Width Wrong for Imported Graphics in Frame 9
Has anyone else had issues with Framemaker detecting the wrong width when importing graphics? As an example, when I import a JPG of a button that should be 21 x 21 pixels, Framemaker displays the width as 24px and the height as 21px. This results in a smashed graphic. If I adjust the dimensions of the graphic in FrameMaker to the correct dimensions, then print the PDF, the right border of the image is off.
I have tried capturing the graphic a variety of different ways, and I always experience the same results. I can import the graphic into Captivate or Word and the sizing is correct. Any ideas? Thanks!
I am using FrameMaker version 9.0p237 as part of the Technical Communication Suite 2.
I just tested this with a sample file at the 21x21 dimensions, and you are absolutely correct. FM9 screws up the dimensions (and default dpi resolution) for PNG and GIF files. I also tried BMP and TIF equivalents and these were ok. FM8 does not have this problem, so it looks like Adobe played with the PNG and GIF filters a bit (perhaps to get rid of all of the extra colours coming in).
For a JPG or PNG import of a 21x21 at 96dpi, FM9 seems to think that it is 24x21 at 110dpi. FM8 gets it right.
For a GIF import of the same, FM9 thinks it is 22x21 at 75dpi. FM8 got it right.
What's also strange is that if the dimensions are both even, e.g. 20x20 at 96dpi, then FM9 gets it right for the JPG, PNG and GIF. However, if the *first* dimension is odd, e.g. 21x20 it gets it wrong again as before, but if the second dimesion is odd, e.g. 20x21, the it gets it right. VERY WIERD!
It's definitely a BUG.
I would suggest that you either use BMP or TIF for now OR try to increase your icons by 1 pixel to make them an even size, e.g. 22x22.
I'd also recommend that you not use JPG for these, but rather GIF or PNG, because you may generate some unwanted artifacts in the JPG due to the lossy compression used.
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> Ok, so I've downloaded the Fw trial to see how it's
better for web graphics
> than Photoshop. With Photoshop the usual problem is that
I have to messing
> around to turn on/off layers, copy parts of images into
new images to export
> transparent logos etc. so I hoped that Fw have some
intelligent slice system
> for one step exports. Unfortunately I haven't been able
to find it. Maybe I'm
> wrong but it seems to me that Fw has a very primitive
flat slicing system, no
> overlapping is possible. So for a very basic example if
I have a background
> graphics on the top of the page that I want to export
(not the entire page) and
> a logo *on* it that I want to export as a transparent
png or maybe just as a
> jpg including the background, it's impossible, because
the logo slice will
> divide the page into rectangles no matter what. I don't
care about
> HTML/CSS/whatever I just want to export overlapping
graphic slices in one
> simple step by properly defined slices. Looks like I
couldn't find the one step
> solution I hoped for in Fw. Am I missing something?
>
>
>
>
>
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>>So for a very basic example if I have a background
> graphics on the top of the page that I want to export
(not the entire
page) and
> a logo *on* it that I want to export as a transparent
png or maybe
just as a
> jpg including the background, it's impossible, because
the logo slice
will
> divide the page into rectangles no matter what.<<
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to have
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