Wifi connectivity - Yosemite and dual band routers (i.e. BT Home Hub)

This is working for me so far after all previous tips on other Discussions proved only to be temporary. This is the only one that enabled my MBP to accept password for the SSID.
From BT Home Hub - 2011!!
The BT Home Hub 4 and Hub 5 are dual band with two wireless frequencies for devices to connect to: 2.4GHz and 5GHz. On both Hubs, the default setting has the same network name (or SSID) for both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands. Connecting a typical 5GHz-capable device to this single SSID will automatically connect the device to both the 2.4 and 5Ghz frequency at the same time.
However, not all dual band devices behave the same way and some device software does not cope well with a single SSID for both frequencies.
As a result:
the device may not connect wirelessly to the Hub
it may not connect to 5GHz frequency even in the same room
the wireless connection might be intermittent
the wireless connection might be very slow
Devices where there are known to be problems include:
Some Apple devices including iPhone 5 and Apple TV
some Android smartphones
Xbox
For some devices you can solve this problem by having different network names (SSIDs) for the 2.4GHz and the 5GHz bands. To set this up, follow these steps:
Open your web browser on a device connected to the Hub and go to bthomehub.home. This will open the Hub Manager
Click on Advanced Settings and enter your Hub admin password when prompted. Unless you've changed it, you'll find the default Hub password on the Hub settings card
Click on Continue to Advanced Settings
Click on Wireless
Click on 5GHz
Change 'Sync with 2.4 Ghz' to No
Change the 'Wireless SSID' to a new name (we recommend just adding '5GHz' to the end of the existing SSID name so you'll know which one is which)
Click Apply to save the changes
After a few minutes you should see two BT Home Hub SSIDs in the list of networks on your device. All of your devices will still automatically connect to the original SSID name, which will be the 2.4GHz.
If you have existing dual band devices you want to connect to 5GHz only, you'll need to connect them to the 5GHz SSID that you've renamed. AND RESTART the hub - PJ
Note- Even though wireless speeds at 5GHz can be significantly faster than 2.4GHz, the range of a 5GHz connection is not as good. As a result, you may need your device closer to your Hub (than you'd need to when using the 2.4GHz SSID) to get the best performance possible."

Sadly it didn't last...
I just posted this on BT Home Hub users forum. and the big Yosemite/wifi Discussion
"Sorry to awaken this topic from the dead....
I am using HH5a, opted in to FON, and Os10.10 MacBookPro
I have no problem whatsoever connecting and staying connected to 2.4ghz
I struggle since OS10.10 to either connect or stay connected to 5ghz
A persistent issue with trying to connect to 5ghz is the response "invalid password" Only occasionally in the past 3 months has this not been a problem
the app WifiExplorer shows today that the only other networks on the same channels as my networks are the FON wifiX - both of which I presume are using my router/wifi as when I manually change channels these move with me.
Signal strength on 2.4 ghz is between 77 - 85, 5ghz 80+/- 1
Noise and signal noise ratio a lot higher on 2.4 than 5
(There is lots more info on wifi explorer but I dont know its relevance/meaning)
I have tried using manual channel selection and Smart Wireless and can't see much difference in 5ghz connection
Given a choice I would prefer to stay in FON but if there is overwhleming evidence that these hot spot networks are affecting mine, I would consider opting out. Views/ guidance please. Thanks. And a Happy New Year too."
IS ANYBODY ELSE using BT Home Hub5a having this same issue? I BELIEVE it has largely if only been since upgrading to 10.10.1 but can't swear to it.
IS IT SIGNIFICANT THAT SOMETIMES THE PASSWORD TO 5GHZ network is accepted and other times not?

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