Wifi dropping in iMac and apple store geniuses have never heard of it
I started having wifi dropping on my IMac and recently figured out it was due to upgrade to lion through Internet search. So today I went to apple store here in northlake mall in Charlotte nc. Asked one of the geniuses about the issue and how we can fix it. He looked at me like I have no idea what I am talking about. He said he never heard of it. I told him that the problem is discussed all over apple website and he said he goes on all the apple discussion forums and he never heard of the issue. So I showed him this website and people discussing the problem. His face turned red and he told me to just make an appt. bring the computer in. My question is if you don't know what I am talking about then why would I bring the computer in when iMac is so heavy. I am just upset that apple people still don't know about this issue and have no solution for it. Come on apple.
Strange that they didn't know about it... were they just visiting appleisflawless.com?
Hi, this has worked for a few...
Make a New Location, Using network locations in Mac OS X ...
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2712
10.7…
System Preferences>Network, top of window>Locations>Edit Locations, little plus icon, give it a name.
10.5.x/10.6.x/10.7.x instructions...
System Preferences>Network, click on the little gear at the bottom next to the + & - icons, (unlock lock first if locked), choose Set Service Order.
The interface that connects to the Internet should be dragged to the top of the list.
Instead of joining your Network from the list, click the WiFi icon at the top, and click join other network. Fill in everything as needed.
For 10.5/10.6, System Preferences>Network, unlock the lock if need be, highlight the Interface you use to connect to Internet, click on the advanced button, click on the DNS tab, click on the little plus icon, then add these numbers...
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
Click OK.
Also, turn off IPv6:
System Preferences » Network » AirPort » TCP/IP tab » Configure IPv6
Or whatever Interface you use.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2712
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*First let me say that the first Apple Store I went to is almost two hours away from where I live, and the second store is just about two hours.*
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