Will Aperture run OK on iBook G4?

Hi everybody! I am new to this forum, and I'm hoping for great answers!
Well, I've had a brief look at Aperture, and it looks perfect for my every-day photography. The only "but" is that I'm running an iBook G4. I am not a professional photographer, but I am going to use RAW files in Aperture. I know that it will install in the first place, but will it run OK? It doesn't have to be supersmooth, but a certain speed is required.
Will Aperture run OK on an iBook G4?
Thanks for all answers!

Aperture a waste of money: absolutely not!!
I think you are looking at the issue at end for the opposite end of the telescope.
As I said there are many things you can do with it even on a modest configuration, as long as you are not dreaming about doing real-time 16bits/color image adjustments.
10 megapix RAW images are tough files to handle. They are a new frontier. With my trusty copy of Graphic Converter it took 35 seconds to get a simple preview on my PBG4 15". Unusable. Nikon capture ran slow, so did DxO. Even photoshop ran slow on large images.
Aperture is interesting precisely for that kind of files. It solves the problem of handling those pesky RAW files that I had completely given up on because of the software and computer end. I shoot RAW again, and the result is often way better.
But up until yesterday, you needed a powerful desktop machine to handle serious photo work, or had to restrain yourself to 8bit/color images (jpeg) which are often inferior looking (especially if the picture was not exposed perfectly and you needed some exposure compensation afterwards).
Recent mac laptops are levelling the playing field and allowing laptops to be a viable alternative to a desktop again.
Of course with a slower machine you can always "develop" RAW files one at a time, with this or that. but the true magic of Aperture is to manipulate RAW with as much flexibility, comfort and long-term anticipation of future needs as if it were JPEGs. I think that's priceless but it does cost more CPU cycles....
So this is why I'm saying you might be looking at this from the wrong end: the G4 is basically a 5 years old processor. It won't get any better soon, and it will never get up to the precise challenge at hand here...
Aperture (and other tools emerging now such as Dxo etc) need us to rethink our approach to computer processing of photos, and this is not just a marketing gimmick, it's real...
Hope this helps putting things in the right kind of light..
yours truly
mp

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And before I purchased Aperture, and as you can see I updated my RAM to 2 GB.
I ordered this laptop with the top line of all hardware possible.
So I could run also run a 20" screen.
And no, I didn't pack the 20" in my suitcase.
It's amazing how far you have to make sure people don't take one word and run with it.
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When things run this slow to the point you can't see a live change in the view,
You don't learn much, and you can't complete a simple project.
Like one person suggested earlier, just tweak the image one mark at a time.
Well hey, we don't have 6 hours to make one adjustment.
The processor is running at 100% and never backs off till you kill the application.
Making the move from Canon G5, to a Canon 30D and a few thou in lenses, is about the biggest joke while in Europe. Yea, drag all this stuff you don't see to Europe, with 2 portable hard drives to keep the Mac hard drive happy.
It all adds up to roughly a $7000 dollar mistake.
The ads are a total farce. Get this, and do stuff beyond the norm.
Yea Right, like your going to bring a G5 tower in a suitcase.
Oh sure, I'll struggle with the software till get through with 20 images, and
what if you have 300?
Now, one question... Who's next , as far as an application that runs RAW images with no lag. With out all the BS.
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