Will editing a smart object affect my photo in Lightroom too?

So I am used to Lightroom after 6 months and I started to use Photoshop CC.
1) After editing in Lightroom I edit my photo as Smart Object in Photoshop CC.
2) When I'm finished and save this as a .PSD, will this affect the photo in Lightroom too?
Will my photo in Lightroom be affected by using Camera RAW?
Will my photo in Lightroom be affected by using adjustment layers and filters?
For now I know that Smart Object are non-destructive, but I just don't know if they change the edit I made in Lightroom.

If you open the image as a Smart Object from Lightroom, the image will be sent to Photoshop as a Tiff file. If you double click that layer it will open in Camera Raw, but all the settings will be their defaults because as far as Camera Raw is concerned, this is a brand new image. None of the changes made will affect the RAW changes you made in Lightroom since you are now effectively working on a copy of the original image.
It's a bit more complicated if you open the image from Bridge. Bridge sends the original RAW file to Photoshop when you ask Camera Raw. If you double click the smart object, all the Camera Raw settings will be set just as they were when you opened it from bridge. At this point, any changes you make WILL be reflected in the original RAW file right up until you save the file in Photoshop. Once Photoshop has saved the image, changes made to the Smart Object will no longer show up in the RAW file if you re-open it in Bridge or Lightroom.
Once you have saved a file in Photoshop opened from Bridge, it works the same as Lightroom with one important exception. Opening from Bridge retains all the settings you made, so you can undo them (without affecting the original image). If you open the image from Lightroom, you can no longer undo the settings made in Lightroom from within Photoshop without starting all over. So for example, if you set the image to +10 exposure, open it from Lightroom and then open the Smart Object, ACR will show the exposure as 0. You could make it -10 to compensate, but you will lose information in the photo. From Bridge, if you open the Smart Object, ACR will show the exposure as +10 so you can undo it with no loss of information.

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Hi,
Thanks for getting back. I should have probably mentioned I'm working in CS3.
Re Colour Mode: Both Illustrator EPS and PSD are CMYK.
Re Colour Profile: Not very technically savy about these things. I know that under 'colour settings' the default is for Creative Suite applications to be synchronised for colour management. I double checked and Illustrator and Photoshop are still in sync, and I'm not getting any warning messages when I open the PSD about colour profiles being mismatched or missing etc. After that I'm not really sure what to check next?
Re »Replace Contents« Smart Object: Replacing the contents sorts out the 'blurry' pixilated' issue but leaves me with another problem... because it replaces from the original file - but edits, when done from PS, seem to made to another (imbedded?) file, leaving the original intact. So instead of double clicking on the SO icon in Photoshop to edit a Smart Object, I'll have to open the original vector EPS in Illustrator - edit - save - then replace contents in Photoshop.
Thanks for your help Christoph. I think this one will have to resigned to the 'buggy glitch' file.

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I'm probably way behind the ball here, but I can't understand how the edit as smart object works. Sure I can open the file as a smart object in PS3, I can, say, apply the Distort/Lens filter to do a perspective transformation - but then how do I save and send it back to Lightroom? Using Export Smart Object just seems to send a file back to Lightroom but my transformation has disappeared. Close and save will create a file - so I still end up creating a new Tif everytime I use PS - but now manually synchronise. Where is the benefit?
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> Yes, add me to the list of being in need of an explanation of how exactly this is supposed to work. I'm hoping that it might be included in the Michael Reichmann and Jeff Schewe video that I purchased recently but as yet haven't downloaded all episodes.
There's a bunch of free videos on the NAPP site. They have an episode on Photoshop integration too. http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom2/
It's pretty clear how it should work from that video, except that it doesn't. Another bug, perhaps.
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2. Both applications are open
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4. XP Pro.
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I got this problem when I installed Adob master collection Over CS 5.
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Thank you kindly, Michael. I see now that the example I was viewing had done exactly what you describe, writing ACR settings into the SO layer's metadata at the time of embedding. I was only looking at the portion which later accessed those settings using PerLayerMetadata, and I had mistakenly assumed that CS5 was automatically embedding xmp data in this manner, now, when opening or placing a RAW file as a SO.
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This is sort of what I was afraid of. They're in there, somewhere, but I'm having no luck figuring out how to access them.
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Things seemed to be going along nicely; if I needed to edit a Smart Object, I could double-click it, it would open in Illustrator and then I could edit and save it. Return to Photoshop and the Smart Object is updated. Swell and dandy. The issue started happen when I hit a large quantity of either vector smart objects (remember, over 200) or the many layers and groups within Photoshop (must be over 500). When I would double-click, open, edit, and save the vector Smart Object, the Photoshop Smart Object I was working on would update AND another/several other Smart Objects would update as well. Which, of course, would ruin the artwork, as suddenly I was seeing several instances of the same object. If it hadn't have been for ForeverSave, I many not have recovered the work.
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There is no naming convention involved. We don't limit the filenames (except to platform standards and to include a file type extension).

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