Will imprting my iPhoto library slow Aperture down?

My current Aperture library is 20GB and my iPhoto library has 11,000 images and is 32 GB. If I bring my iPhoto library into Aperture (and store it in the Aperture Library, i.e. non-referenced), will this cause Aperture to slow down considerably? I know I can always have multipule Aperture libraries, but I'd rather not.
I presume that using Smart Albums would be slower as there are more images to search through, but other than things like that what is your experience?
Thanks!
P.S. I'm looking for first hand experience, not theoretical
24" iMac 2.33 Ghz, Powerbook G4 1.5Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.7) Aperture 1.5.2

Yes it will slow it down, in my experience the stacks that are created by the iPhoto import for all the iPhoto photos that had modifications applied to them (of which I had a lot (since it did that for all my portrait photos automatically)
will cause major slow downs, so after import first try to reslolve all those stacks, remove duplicates (if you want to keep the master but also the modifications try to mirror the modifications made to the photo in Aperture and then toss the iPhoto edited..)

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Importing my iPhoto library into Aperture. Best way to avoid duplicates?

Hi,
I'm a new Mac user. I have been in the very slow and tedious process of transferring my photos from my HP hard drive to my Mac. I used iPhoto for a very brief time before purchasing Aperture 3. (I've used photoshop for years.) I haven't yet Imported or consolidated or whatever the correct term would be the iPhoto library into the Aperture library. I've been avoiding it because I know there are some duplicates. Mainly just a few "Events" from the last few weeks before starting using Aperture. Now with the new update, it seems like it's a great time to get it all consolidated into an Aperture library that I can use in both iPhoto and Aperture. What's the easiest way for me to proceed? I'm sorry for my lack of proper Mac terms....I'm learning!
Thanks so much for your help!
Christy

Clear as mud??
If you want to see all your images - those now in your Aperture Library and those in your iPhoto Library- then you need to merge both Libraries into one Library - I'd import your iPhoto Library into the Aperture Library.
This combined Library will be compatible with both Applications.
To merge your iPhoto Library into the Aperture Library do the following:
Make a backup of your current iPhoto library (libraries)
Upgrade to iPhoto 9.3, if you have not already done so.
Open your iPhoto Library at least once in Photo 9.3 to upgrade the Library.
Unhide all hidden images. You cannot unhide them when viewing the Library in Aperture.
Quit iPhoto.
If you have not already upgraded to Aperture 3.3, do it like this:
Backup your current Aperture library.
Rebuild the Aperture Database using the Aperture Library First Aid Tools: Launch Aperture with the cmd-options-key combination (⌘⌥) firmly held down, then select "Rebuild Database".
After rebuilding upgrade to Aperture 3.3 and launch Aperture to upgrade the Aperture Library.
With Aperture still open, double click your iPhoto Library. Aperture will prompt you, if you want to add or merge your iPhoto Library - choose "Merge". This will avoid importing duplicate images, as far as Aperture can tell that those are the same images - same filename.
You will have to weed out some duplicates yourself - this is best be done by sorting the images by capture date, then duplicate shots will appear side by side.
Post back, if you have more questions.
Regards
Léonie

Importing iPhoto library in Aperture

Hello this is the step that i follow to import the iPhoto library in Aperture
1- File>Import>iPhoto Library
2- Store Files in the apeture library
3- Import
When the importing process is finished from the image folder in Finder I can see that my iphoto library is 30gb but the Aperture library is 15gb (even if the aperure window when I import the iphoto library say that aperutre will import 30gb)
So I go in aperture and try to consolidate files but aperture say
The selection doesn’t have any referenced files
Any help?

My master folder in iphoto is 25gb in aperture is 13
So either quite a few masters have not been imported, or the masters have been imported with the wrong resolutzin, or your iPhoto "Masters" folder contains additional files - duplicate versions, or raw files.
@TD, any more suggestions?
So, please, look into the "Masters" folder in iPhoto and Aperture - navigate down the folder structure , until you finally find the actual images. Compare the sizes of the master image files, and look in the iPhoto library if there are duplicates.
If the sizes of the master files in iPhoto are larger than in Aperture, then something went wrong.
If on the other hand, there are duplicates in iPhoto that are not there in Aperture, then never mind.
You confirmed that the numbers of images are correct. When you compared the numbers of images in iPhoto and Aperture, did you make sure that iPhoto was set to show "Hidden Photos"? (in the main menu bar: "View -> Hidden Photos" should be checked)
Ps. How do I get bigger icon in left side if finder?
When you have a Finder Window selected, you can customize the View by pressing Command(⌘)-J, short for "View -> Show View Options". In the pop-up window set the Text Size to a higher value.
That will increase the size of the icons as well.

Error Message (Arrow and Exclaimation Mark in Yellow Triangle) Showing on Bottom Right of Some Photos after Merging iPhoto Library into Aperture

The strange thing is that some of these said photos with an error message have a normal thumbnail and can be opened fine, but the others (most of them) just have an empty space in the thumbnail as if the image can't be found.
I tried to Locate Referenced Files as Leonie suggested in https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3686982?tstart=0 but got this message 'The Selection Doesn't Have Any Referenced Files', so i presume that's not the issue.
In the thread mentioned above, Leonie mentioned something about not emptying trash. I did empty my trash recently, and started to think these images may have been poor quality ones i previously deleted in the iPhoto library … but that still doesn't explain why the error currently appears on some images which seem to work fine (these images are ok quality ones and there is no way i would have deleted them in the past).
Also - the 'Processing' message at the bottom of the browser seems to be spinning endlessly. I just left it for over 10 hours overnight and it's still going. Could this be linked to these error images which it's having a hard time finding/loading?
Quite baffled at the moment, and would really appreciate any feedback. TIA.
EDIT:
I just looked more closely. It appears that most of my folders have duplicates of the same image with exactly the same file name. And all the images with the error message have them on both duplicates (i.e. one on an image that has an empty thumbnail, and one on an image that's fine).
When i initially tried to import the library, it proceeded half way then failed. After opening the iPhoto library in Aperture first, and then doing the import again, everything worked fine. So, i'm wondering if the images with errors that are empty/blank may be the result of the failed 1st import.
What's puzzling is why they weren't overwritten (especially since all the file names are exactly the same). When importing the library, i chose 'merge' instead of 'add' when prompted, thinking that would solve it. Obviously not.
EDIT 2:
After reflecting on this, i thought one solution may be to:
a) Find all the error'd images that are empty/blank and delete them, and then
b) Find and remove all duplicates
So i followed Leonie's suggestion to create a Smart Album and use the 'File Status is Missing' rule.
But now, i see that there are images that i imported into Aperture months ago that have the same problem. And the new thing is that there are duplicates with errors where *both* images are visible (whereas for the iPhoto library i just imported, there were dupes where one version was blank and the other was visible and seemingly ok).
I'm really hoping there is a simple solution to this, and am awaiting some feedback before i try anything else.
NB. This is a super large (over 100GB) Aperture library that i am trying to consolidate everything into. It is Work In Progress and i was only going to back it up once the import of various iPhoto libraries was done. However, I'm wondering if it's better to just back up first - but if i do it now, the backup will include all these errors and duplicates. What would you guys do?

UPDATE 2:
The users in these 2 threads seem to have a similar File Status Not Found issue:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4086569?tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/message/17757686#17757686
Followed Leonie's advice to look for the (missing) masters inside the Masters folder, and indeed, they were missing. So, that confirms the reason for the error message.
If this does not work, because you have managed originals, inside the Aperture Library, look for your originals in the Aperture Library Package. Select the Library in the Finder and ctrl-click, then select "Show Package Contents" from the pop-up. In the Finder window that opens, navigate to the folder "Masters". Your missing images should be inside; the folder is structured by date of import.
Of course, the question is - why the masters for these few images are missing, when the other images in the same project that were imported/merged at the same time are fine.
Trying to do the library import/merge from iPhoto into Aperture again. Fingers crossed. Will report back on the result.

I have Iphoto library in Aperture. Can I move the projects from iPhoto to aperture project by dragging?

I have Iphoto library in Apeture. Can I move the projects from iPhoto to aperture project by dragging (within the apeture program)? Is this making a duplicate of all the photos? It seems to work?? It then leaves my Iphoto library in apeture empty. I would like to do this just to reorganize the photos between the two. I feel that I may have doubles and would like all pictures of one year in same project in Aperture instead of going between both.

Tell us more, please. I am not quite sure, what you want to do and how you are using Aperture and iPhoto?
Which versions of Aperture and iPhoto are you using?
Do you have separate photo libraries for Aperture and iPhoto, or are you opening your iPhoto libraries in Aperture?
I have Iphoto library in Apeture.
Did you import an iPhoto library into Aperture? And now you are seeing a section "iPhoto Library" in the Aperture projects list in the Inspector?
Events and albums you imported from iPhoto (Import > Library > Some iPhoto Library) will be imported as Aperture projects and albums, and they will behave exactly as other Aperture projects and albums.
Can I move the projects from iPhoto to aperture project by dragging (within the aperture program)? Is this making a duplicate of all the photos? It seems to work?? It then leaves my Iphoto library in apeture empty.
You can drag images from any project in Aperture to other projects and that will move (not duplicate) the images and all its versions to that project. And when you drag all images from the project to another project, the remaining project will be empty and can be deleted. (Caution: Photos that you have hidden in iPhoto will not be visible in Aperture. If you are not sure, if you have hidden photos, open the library again in iPhoto and unhide all photos).
I feel that I may have doubles and would like all pictures of one year in same project in Aperture instead of going between both.
There should be no problem with moving all photos from the same years to the same projects. You can also drag projects in "Projects" view on top of each other. That will merge them.
You could also define smart albums in Aperture to search for images taken at a specific period of time:
File > New > Smart album:
Then, in the Smart Settings HUD, click "Add Rule" and add a Date or Calendar rule.
For example, to find all images taken in 2010, use a rule "Date > Capture Year is > 2010"
To search for Photos taken at a specific date or at several dates, use a "calendar" rule. This way, you do nat have to type the date, but can pick it from a mini calendar.

IPhoto library into Aperture 3

I am currently importing my iPhoto 9 library into Aperture 3. When I pressed import, i was told it would take up 75gb of disc space, so I assume it is creating a duplicate of my iPhoto library.
So, I dont really want the two libraries, so can I delete ( or rather move to an external hard drive the original iphoto library?
Will I lose any data or does Aperture create a whole new library?
Allan

Allan,
When you import the default will probably be to store the photos in Aperture's library. This will make a copy of your photos and is called "Managed masters" in Aperture. As long as this what happens when you import, you will then definitely have 2 of each photo that you imported. It's not going to duplicate your iPhoto library per se (the library is a database that contains all the pictures and other goodies). Rather, it will copy each photo from your iPhoto library into a new library (the Aperture one).
You can also have Aperture use "Referenced" masters, by doing what gordonbmac indicated. In this case, Aperture does not manage the location of your masters. They will be wherever iPhoto has them. This may or may not be good depending on what you are going to do with your iPhoto library after. I.e., if you play with iPhoto and rearrange things, Aperture doesn't know that you moved the masters that it points to. It may mean that you will have to keep your iPhoto library around because Aperture is pointing to photos in it.
Your plan to move the iPhoto library to an external hard drive is exactly what I did when I imported my iPhoto library into Aperture. I kept it around for quite a while until I was satisfied that I didn't accidentally leave something in there that I didn't import into Aperture.
nathan

Just downloaded trial version -- don't see iPhoto library in Aperture and need to import selected photos-not entire library!

I just downloaded trial version -- don't see iPhoto library in Aperture and need to import selected photos to edit, not entire i Photo library! I read manual and it says:
Browsing and Selecting Images in Your iPhoto Library
You use the Aperture iPhoto Browser to review iPhoto images and import specific images into the Aperture library. The iPhoto Browser gives you a handy way of looking for certain images without having to import your entire iPhoto library.
So, where do I review the iPhoto images...there is nothing in there that says "iPhoto Library" Everything I see pertains to Aperture Library which of course is empty since I haven't imported (or dragged) any photos in there yet.
Also is tech support available for Aperture? I have Apple Extended Support and I sure would love it if I had individual help. I have a deadline --3 days to edit 300 photos and I'm a complete amateur. iPhoto doesn't have the capability to erase parts of a face (I need to contour the neck of a mannequin to make it proportionate to the separate head I put on top of it. I'm sure Aperture must have a tool to help me do that! At least I hope so.

where do I review the iPhoto images
File -> Import -> Show iPhoto Browser
I have a deadline --3 days to edit 300 photos and I'm a complete amateur. iPhoto doesn't have the capability to erase parts of a face (I need to contour the neck of a mannequin to make it proportionate to the separate head I put on top of it. I'm sure Aperture must have a tool to help me do that!
Sounds more like a job for Photoshop to me
if I decide to import entire iPhoto library into Aperture will it delete my iPhoto library?
No.
Regards
TD

Help! I'm too scared to erase my iPhoto library in Aperture, but I need to!

Is it safe to delete iPhoto library from Aperture if I chose to save it in their current location when I did the import?
I have already erased two events from the iPhoto Library in Aperture and they still show when I open iPhoto...but I'm too scared...There are like 20,000 photos. I chose to import all the Library because I wanted to have all in Aperture, but now the library is so big that when I open another application that has to search within Aperture's library it takes hours....
Thanks for your help....

Carolina Picon wrote:
Is it safe to delete iPhoto library from Aperture if I chose to save it in their current location when I did the import?
I have already erased two events from the iPhoto Library in Aperture and they still show when I open iPhoto...but I'm too scared...There are like 20,000 photos. I chose to import all the Library because I wanted to have all in Aperture, but now the library is so big that when I open another application that has to search within Aperture's library it takes hours....
Thanks for your help....
Ah the +delete or not to delete question+.....
From the first part of your post I believe you're saying that when you imported your iPhoto library into Aperture you told Aperture to leave the masters in the iPhoto Library. But then you wrote " I chose to import all the Library because I wanted to have all in Aperture" which sounds like you moved the masters into Apertures library.
Just to be sure you first enter Browser mode then select the Photos icon in the Library inspector, which will bring up all the photos in your library. Now create a filter add the rule *File Status* and in the pulldown select Managed. This will select all images in your library were the master is in the Aperture library. If you left the masters in the iPhoto library when you imported them then you should't see any images, If you do see images here that means that these masters are in the Aperture library and deleting the library would be bad.
If nothing shows up you could delete the library but deleting it is so final. Having a backup would be a good thing just in case.

Sync iPhoto library in Aperture

Is it possible to sync my iPhoto library in Aperture.
I use my iPhoto library to view and show the images with or without slideshows and my Aperture library to edit the images.
It would be nice that the edited images will show up in iPhoto and the imported images in iPhoto will be visible in Aperture.

You cannot "sync" the databases. You can import the iPhoto library into Aperture, and you can use Aperture's JPEG previews to view Aperture files in iPhoto and many other areas of OS X.
Please, read the other threads on this. It's been discussed at length. Also have a read of the documentation... it details it as well

HT201340 Merging iPhoto library into Aperture - what really happens?

If I merge my iPhoto library into Aperture does it mean I will have all my photos showing as projects in aperture the same as events in iPhoto? I only want to bring in my professional photos from different events in iPhoto and put them into projects to create a themed workflow and edit these in Aperture. I do not want iPhoto and Aperture to be the same.
I am extra new to the Mac invironment.
Thankyou

Open your iPhoto library with Aperture. Select the events you want combined with your Aperture library and select File->Export Projects as library. This will create a new Aperture library with just those events. Then reopen your normal Aperture library and File->Import library and select the new library you just created.
Once you import this library, you can delete the separate library if you want.

Can't find my iPhoto Library on Aperture

I just downloaded Aperture and couldn't wait to see my iPhoto Library in the new Aperture. But when I opened Aperture the photos shown in the Library are old photos (5,000+) that I have deleted from my iPhoto Library. In fact nothing newer than 2009 is showing. I tried to import my current Library but it wasn't even shown as an option. HELP!!! How do I get rid of the 5,000 old photos I don't want and get to my current iPhoto Library?

What are the system version and program versions (iPhoto, Aperture) you are using? If you are opening your iPhoto Library in Aperture your profile signature ( Mac OS X (10.6.3)) cannot be current?
Have you more than one iPhoto Library? It looks like you are viewing an older iPhoto lIbrary in Aperture? Or are you viewing the Trash, if you only see images that should be dleted?
Try the following:
Quit Aperture and open iPhoto on the iPhoto Library you want to view in Aperture.
Look in iPhoto's Trash. Check if there are photos in it, that you trashed accidentally. Put back anything that should not be trashed. Then empty it, if there are still 5000 photos in it.
Unhide any photos that are set to be hidden (marked by a red "x"). Aperture cannot reveal photos hidden in iPhoto.
Then use the command (from iPhoto's main menu bar): File > Open library in Aperture
Do you now see the same images in Aperture as in iPhoto? Your iPhoto events will be appear as projects.
Regards
Léonie

Need help adding originals from iphoto library to Aperture

Hey all,
I have a Macbook Pro 2010 17" i7 that I use for Aperture projects. Previously, my setup worked like this: I was running Snow Leopard, with both Aperture and iPhoto installed. I had all of my photo masters/originals in my iPhoto library, and I referenced them to my Aperture library.
I recently upgraded to a dual SSD+HDD setup and performed a clean install with Mavericks. What I would like to do now - since I don't use iPhoto anymore and I use Aperture exclusively for my photo projects - is to move, not copy, my iPhoto masters into either my current Aperture library, or a new one, if that's necessary. As a test run, I had already consolidated most of my photos before I did the upgrade, but it created many duplicates in my Aperture library: the master copy, and the referenced copy.
Once I get everything moved to Aperture, I will simply delete the iPhoto library, since I won't use it, and all the originals will now reside in the Aperture library. If anyone has any suggestions or ideas on how to do this, I'd love to hear them!

Thanks for the prompt and helpful reply Najinsky!
I originally imported the photos using "Import files" not the actual iPhoto library.
Well I did originally use the Consolidate Original menu item - I can confirm that - but I had done that as a test before I upgraded my hard drive and installed Mavericks.
Additionally, before I tried the Consolidate Original option, I had tried merging the iPhoto library to Aperture via the File->Import->Library and selecting the iPhoto library. I followed the instructions from the Apple KB article: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5296
Because I merged the iPhoto library first, and then Consolidated, this is why I originally had duplicates.
Since the clean install of Mavericks however, I have selected all of my photos in Aperture and selected the Consolidate Original option, and it now appears that everything has changed from referenced to managed. I have also noticed that the Aperture library filesize has gotten much bigger, but the iPhoto library filesize has remained the same size. Wouldn't it have shrunk if I moved the originals to Aperture? I did select Move, not Copy from the Consolidate Original menu.

"To open this iPhoto library in Aperture, it first needs to be upgraded". Aperture already up to date. still cant open aperture library. please advice

When I try to open my aperture library, this is the message pop out " TO OPEN THIS iPHOTO LIBRARY IN APERTURE, IT FIRST NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED. "
My apperture application is already up to date. no more upgrade available. please advice what to do.

The update refers to the library not the application.
So is this an Aperture library you are trying to open in iPhoto or an iPhoto library you are trying to open in Aperture? You're post is confusing on this point.
In either case make sure the library is up-to-date in the originating application then the other should open it.
BTW what version of iPhoto abnd Aperture are you running?
Message was edited by: Frank Caggiano

I have just imported Iphoto library into aperture library, can I delete now the Iphoto Library ?

Hi, I have juste imported Iphoto library into Aperture Library (did a copy) - can I delete my Iphoto library as I won't use Iphoto anymore ?
Thanks Hélème

Helene,
Both of those things you pointed out are mere *metadata*.
When you imported your iPhoto library, since you did a copy, your libraries are completely independent.
When I was in your situation, I moved my iPhoto library to an external disk and then went to the Aperture library to see how it behaved, even though i was 99.99% sure my iPhoto and Aperture libraries were separate.
nathan

Failure to import iPhoto library into Aperture 3

I am trying out a trial version of Aperture 3. When I tried to import my iPhoto Library into Aperture (and into the Aperture folder) I get an error message saying that it cannot import iPhoto libraries if they are in a version of iPhoto that is older than 7.1.5.
I have a brand new computer and I have the most recent version of iPhoto so what is this all about?
LD

Keep in mind you need to select the iphoto library. To make sure you have selected it should be highlighted in gray.
You may run into additional trouble importing if the library is large. Here is the thread with a crude resolution.
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=11094080#11094080

Will imprting my iPhoto library slow Aperture down?

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